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yennas aamchi manayee nahi pan tyanni marathi mansala tras devu naye, Sadhya TV var maharashtrachi va marathi mansachi badnami karne ha ekch dhanda suru aahe. Zee News, IBN7, Aaj tak, Channel 9, india News ...... he sarva hindi channel poth tidkine marathi mansacha aapman karat aahet, Asle fadtoos channel bhagnyachi marathi maansachi icha nahi, Amhala Zee 24 Taas va Star majha he don channel bas jhale bathmya bhaghayala. Majhe maharastra teel congress sarkar la sangne aahe ki tyanni Sarva Hindi channel che maharashtrateel prakshepan bandh karave, marathi manshacha udrek jhalas congress sarkar javabdar raheel
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written by prashu 1294 days ago
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Barobar ahe tuza. Nustach BAN nahi tar kaydeshir karawai zali pahije. Konihi lungya sungya uthato ani ya channels var kahi pan dhakhavat sutato. Police complaint karun kortat khechala pahije ya haramkhorana...
Main mhanje, marathi manus ekvatalela tyana nako ahe. Ani mhanun te he sagla karat ahet. Pan gammat mhanje tyancya hya chawat panamule marathi manus ekatra yeun ashya blog madhun charya kartoy.......
written by asthipanjar 1292 days ago
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Ban all hindi channels??? :D
Why not ban English channels too?
written by funaholic 1292 days ago
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Yup Agree Ban Hindi news channel. Complete Idiots they r .Good for nothing.These idiots made Rahul Raj Hero. Can't u see they r complete nuts.One guy who has gun in his hand trying to highjack a bus what this stupid bihari media wants is Police shld ask for his biodata there.Nonsense.
Shahid bhagat singh banan diya usko.
Another thing from Day one Raj has been saying that he is not against chat puja but he is against growing political involvment in it.Same thing he said again in his recent press conference he hasn't changed a single word from his agenda.But this hindi media now says he has 2 faces and he is pschyo.
Pakka Bihari media hai hindi . NO dimag at all. They have always presented Raj in very wrong manner.Why will not MNS beat up media guys?
written by undercover 1292 days ago
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@funaholic Also ban Tamil, Telgu and Other language channels because if you happen to follow them, then you wouldn't find great praise for Raj Thakeray in them either!
Basically ban anything which is not saying what you want to hear. I say, why not use the remote and switch off yout TV!!
If Chat Puja is polticised, then what about Ganesh festivala and dahi Handi!!
If you want MNS to beat yp Media guys , today; tomorrow they might want to beat you on some other pretext. And if you support this kind of state of affairs (beating media, doctors, teachers, lovers), then your neighbour who might have more muscles than you, could take your parking place by just thrashing you....
written by funaholic 1292 days ago
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Arebaba Not bcoz I Support Raj Thackrey But bcoz They r passing wrong info. Yaar Bhad mein gaye News channel I support raj I dont care If anybody support him or not. I dont force anybody to support him either.Its indiviual choice.
As far as Journalism is concern I say give only right info.These guys were shouting that A guy named pawan was killed in MNS agitation i.e he was beaten up by MNS But that story was completely fake. No hindi channel rectified it afterwards. Non you think That its their responsibility .
Now Simple thing Rahul Raj what do you think abt him. If you would have seen the way this media has dramatised the whole thing. Do you think it was right. Only bcoz he was a NI is allowed to do anything. Mumbai kya UP bihar hai kya.Use commen sense yaar.
Media job is to give right info of whats going around.But Nowdays what u see is it is used as a medium to agitate political matters.
Another thing ganesh Festival or Dahi handi mein Bahdkau Bhashan nahi deta koi bhi. Jo ki last time chat puja mein diye gaye the.
Under cover Seriously mein cover hata yaar.
written by kiran 1292 days ago
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I want hindi channels to be banned not because i support raj thackrey. I want them banned just because there quality of content is pathetic. For that matter even if there are any marathi channels with such quality, they should be banned too.
BTW i find your comments similar to these channels quite often :) .. you start with channels .. talk about chat puja and ends of MNS beating :)
written by undercover 1292 days ago
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@kiran Use remote. It is a great tool. It switches off those frequencies which you do not want to connect to.
You can not judge quality of content. You might find something good but others might find same thing lame. So who is going to decide? In fact for that matter somebody might find quality of content on this site "pathatic" and demand it to be banned.
written by asthipanjar 1292 days ago
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Banning anything is of no use, I thought we knew it by now! If we have to ban, then we have to ban everything - all the Balaji serials, hindi music (damaging to kids' values), english movies (damaing to eveyone's values) and so on.
I personally think listening to people who disagree with my beliefs is important. If I only listen to people who agree, then I think I become some kind of Taliban!! :D
written by funaholic 1292 days ago
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How can u compare Journalism with these serails asthi? Dont u think they shld be more responsible. Ekta kappor serials will not cause agigation in between people and states. But wrong journalism can right.These guys are passing wrong info. They r even dangerous then politicians.They shld be fined for passing wrong info.
It was only Star Maja and Doordarshan news Which I appreciate Were doing their jobs rightly Just giving news of whats happening nothing else.
Lokmat ka Nikhil wagale ko to fatkana hi chahiye Kasam se.
written by kiran 1292 days ago
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yea, you are actually correct :)
written by asthipanjar 1292 days ago
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funaholic,
They have a different perspective and market. It may be totally wrong, but allowing opposing points of view to clash is critical in democracy. Otherwise we are like North Korea or something :D
Will it work if Maharashtrian channels show north indian point of view, and hindi channels show maharasthrian point of view? No na. It is by clashing that balance comes in the end. But we should try more to understand each other. That is not happening. It is all Us or Them.
In a democracy, we should disagree with each other. And then argue, debate. Thats how democracy forms a balance in the end.
Hindi channels do not know maharathrian thinking, so they react their way. I would also say, marathi channels dont know north indian thinking, so they react their way too. Let them.
Serials are damaging in many other ways, right?!! MTV is damaging too, what I see on MTv or hindi music channels, to see that much nudity, earlier one had to go for a porn movie!
There is little doubt that Indian media, specially in Hindi language has done little on jouranlism front and mostly they resemble like B-grade bollywood movies with sensationalistic headlines. But that does not mean we should ban the media. (even though there are times when I feel angry at some reporting done on India TV and some other, and I wanted them to be banned :) Just to express my anger) But as principle I dont think Media needs to be banned in a democracy.
Media in India needs to self-censor it and increase the bar on quality reporting and ethical journalism. But we can not afford to go to Doordarshan days.
As for as Rahul Raj encounter, I personally think that Mumabi Poilce went overbaord. There are ways of handling hostage situation and little more persuation from Police was needed. I also thought the RR Patil's statement after the encounter was belittling for a Home minister. Rahul Raj was on wrong side of law and what he did was criminal, but so is MNS and Raj Thackeray.
Before we condemn those who become terrorists, we should condemn people who create enviornment where terrorism spreads. Muslims took to terrorism big time in India after BJP and Advnai's Babri demolition. Raj Thackeray has created a similar enviornment in Mumbai between marathis and outsiders. If We we allow MNS, Bajrang dal, SIMI to use thier divisive agenda, we would see more muslim terrorists, Sadhvi Pragya and desperate and disturbed men like Rahul Raj...
About Dahi handi, I have heard many bahsans from Local Shiv Sena neta in my locality....
written by funaholic 1292 days ago
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Before we condemn those who become terrorists, we should condemn people who create enviornment where terrorism spreads. Right Agreed. Then How come MNS is criminal. That why Maharastra Govt and lalu Is criminal Why r u blaming MNS then.That way even they r right na.
Why this whole thing happened bcoz Lalu is snatching all railway jobs not from mumbai but from other states to Up -bihar. So dont u see this as environment where agitation spread.hmm undercover.Isn't this injustice.
Make same laws for everybody.
About Dahi handi, I have heard many bahsans from Local Shiv Sena neta in my locality.... Like this to Hum log apna local blgsite Marathi katta pe bhi bhashan dete hai Par isko News coverage thodi na milta hai. Its imp undercover who is saying it and saying it where.
written by undercover 1292 days ago
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@funholic
No, MNS is not right. They are running a hate compaign just the way Bajrang dal or even VHP does.MNS has created a wedge among people (the way Shiv sena did with South indians). MNS's agenda is largely made up of half truths coupled with street violence. It is same as early days of Nazi party. Maharashtra Government is similarily culpable as was Gujrat government and Modi.
I dont know how much truth is there in "Laloo snatching" railway jobs. What if I said that Sharad Powar is snatching everything related to agriculture (taking to Maharashtra)!! Even if Laloo is doing that , we should fight him in a legal and constitutional way, not by beating students.
Laws are same for everybody.
IF dahi handi and Ganeshutsav can be politicised , why not chat puja or Id or Muhharam!!
Ultemately MNS is just creating a political space for itself by using a very old political tool of divide and rule. And they have taken it to another level by using violence and hate.
written by punchtantra 1292 days ago
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@undercover,
"MNS's agenda is largely made up of half truths coupled with street violence"
Cant you say the same for these channels .
Raj Thackerays speeches were quoted without the actual context.Some channels completely distorted & sensationalised things he had said.Why cant they publish the complete news.
When the major media sings a similar tune the public generally assumes it is being honestly informed.These media channels spin and color stories to suit their agenda. They are misguiding public over certain remarks by RT.Now if that causes violence In bihar, who is responsible for the damage caused.In the Pawan Kumar kumar incident they made it appear as if MNS was responsible for his death.It was followed by violence. Trains,buses were set ablaze.Shouldnt they be held accountable for incidents like these?
What if I said that Sharad Powar is snatching everything related to agriculture (taking to Maharashtra)!!
Well thats the problem UnderCover that he is not...Laloo is giving the railway jobs to people from bihar on a priority basis and Vidarbha Farmers are dying.Thats why we need somebody who atleast understands issues from maharashtra
IF dahi handi and Ganeshutsav can be politicised , why not chat puja or Id or Muhharam!!
ID/muharram/dahi handi/Ganeshotsavs are maharashtrian festivals which have history and celeberated for many years. Chat puja started recently on a large scale (some 3/4 years ago )to demonstrate the political strength of NI politicians like Krupa Shankar Singh and Sanjay Nirupam.
Thats the whole point.The influx becoming a votebank and threatening the very existence of the sons of the soils.
Even our problems wont be our own. They would have resemblance to lucknow and patna
I would rather go with Channels than MNS. Channels are lesser evil than MNS. And Anyway, I think you have not tuned to English media and channels. They have had many coverages and panel discussions where some of marathi intelectuals have also participated. So I dont think that there is some organised bias against MNS in Media. MNS is responsible for hate crimes and spreading poision of regionlism in city like Mumbai. Those who burnt buses in Bihar are equally culpable and should be brought to book.
The point about Sharad Powar is that , there are enough marathi leaders in Center who have influence on government, so it is not that NI leaders are running the country. Laloo Yadav might be a joker and an asshole, but he has done rather well in Railways in making it profitable. Biharis generally do well in railways as they preapre for it as they also doe for IAS. It is not that Laloo Yadav personally handles recruitment of railways and checks papers of all examinees. Except for Maharashtra nobody else has made such a noise about Railways..why!!
What do you know of Maharahstra' and its festival's history?? Is Mumbai of today same as it was in 1900?? Culture of a city undergo transformation. Ganesh festival started during freedom movement. Same for navratri which began with Gujrati influx. So what if some people are celebrating Chat puja now?? Mumbai doesn't belong to Marathis alone or to any specific community.
Son of soil?? What is that!! If there are any sons of soil in Mumbai , then they are Kolis. And where did Kolis come from?
Instead of Focussing on city like Mumbai, Maharashtrian politicians would do better if tey focus on rest of Maharashtra and solve real problems like shortage of power and farmer's suicides. Mumbai is a global city with global problems. Mumbai is a national asset and not just marathi province. People who come form UP/Bihar to Mumbai come here to fill those low income jobs which locals do not take up for various reasons. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/45424416.cms
written by prashu 1292 days ago
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Guys, Undercover is like "Zoplelyala Jaga karta yete pan zopecha dhong ghyenarya la nahi"
His own agenda is to target MNS and he is doing it very well. Imagine if could have been in Bihar, Laloo would have honored him with some award.
He really do not want to look this issue from Maharashtrian point of view. Reasons best known to him only and we are least interested in those reasons. And just look at his remarks about Laloo. He always use "might be" kind of words which clearly says that he do not want to utter a single word against Laloo but since Laloo's WORK is spilt wide & open hence Our friend Undercover is using such words in praise of Laloo.
I sincerly request you all not to indulge and waste our time in giving replies to such damaged beyond repaire kindaa people.
Better we will discuss something for socio-economical development of Marathi Manoos.
Jai Maharashtra
written by undercover 1292 days ago
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@prashu
Intersentengly "Zoplelyala Jaga karta yete pan zopecha dhong ghyenarya la nahi" applies very well to you. It is you who are pretending to be asleep thinking that MNS is really going to re-construct Maharahstra or Mumbai by driving away few migrants. (well last time it was south indians in 60! and next it couold be someone else).
I have no agenda except agenda of being indian. I have no respect for MNS, SIMI, Bajrang DAL and thier ilks. I have no respect for people like Laloo, Paswan or Mayawati either. But I dont see why I am supposed to utter words against Laloo or someone else!!! We are disucssing xenophobia and hatred launched by MNS in Mumbai so how does Laloo comes in picture except that he is using opportunity given by MNS to play his own game.
And why do you people take references from Laloo...do you want to stoop to his level??
-Jai Hind
written by funaholic 1291 days ago
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aaishapatttttttttt @undercover
We are disucssing xenophobia and hatred launched by MNS in Mumbai so how does Laloo comes in picture?
Laloo is lead villain in this whole picture.Par picture abhi baki hai mere Dost ;)
Akha Ramayan ikavlyavar hey vichartat ki Rama Chi Sita Kon? Ghya ahe uttar. Mee tar niruttar ahe.
Undercover na majha koprya varun dandavat.
written by meemarathi 1292 days ago
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Mumbai is Marathi province.let me put my view. Guess if plague emerges in Mumbai.. What will all migrants do? They will return to their homeland. The only people left in mumbai will be marathis who are and have relatives staying in mumbai since decades.
Outsiders only come to snatch jobs and opportunities.If they come here to do low income jobs which locals do not take up for various reasons, they should focus on it only. Now if any outsider who can trim your hairs in 20Rs, why will somebody go to saloon owned by Marathi who charges Rs35 ( As recommended by barber's association)?
I read various comments by undercover, and i can say that he has problems with almost everybody. He is kind of so called Samajsudharak and he gets some "naram mitti" here to dig. The real samaj that needs people like undercover is north india, especially Bihar and UP.
@undercover : let us see links of your comments posted to teach Punjabi's and Assamese who are also against biharis.
written by kiran 1291 days ago
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"I would rather go with Channels than MNS. Channels are lesser evil than MNS."
-- This is a carpet statement without being specific. Everybody knows these channels accelarate wrong things. One taxi burnt by MNS few months ago and the airing is for whole day. I don't want to support violent act by MNS but some channels are just inflating the issues and generating haterate among communities.
"Except for Maharashtra nobody else has made such a noise about Railways..why"
-- Because 53000 maharastrian candidates sat in the railway exams in year 2002 and only 50 odd passed. Is lalu justified by favouring regionlism in railway jobs. Especially jobs in maharashtra ?
"So what if some people are celebrating Chat puja now??"
-- Well raj thackrey or MNS never opposed any regional activitiy what he opposed is politicisation of such events. There are more navaratri mandal ran by mahrashtrians today then gujarati's. You are correct that some places bhshanbaji happens. Tilak started ganeshotsav for similar reasons. By comparing chat puja with these things you can win the logical debate, but we all know the exact reason for chat puja organized by krupashankar singh in mumbai. We need neither raj thackrey nor lalu to tell that to us.
"Son of soil"
-- Everybody who built mumbai is son of soil. Everybody who will destroy this beautiful city will be targeted by son of soils (again not by violence).
"Instead of Focussing on city like Mumbai, Maharashtrian politicians would do better if tey focus on rest of Maharashtra"
-- This can not be more funny. You are ok with lalu focussing in mumbai but you are not ok with maharashtrian politicians looking into it. What exactly that you want ?
I initially thought you just opposed raj thackrey for his "rada" theories. But i feel you hate raj thackrey and MNS blindly and believes that he has no agenda but his own personal gains. Well you might be correct. But that doesn't mean whatever concern he has raised are incorrect .. at least not all of them.
"This is a carpet statement without being specific..."
I thought the statement is self explanatory. MNS and its agenda is more dangerous than media. And as I said before, there are many diverse and saner voices in Media...
"Because 53000 maharastrian candidates sat in the railway exams in year 2002.."
Interesting stats, So who was railway minister in 2002? What about other state candidates? May be only 50 studied enough to pass exam that year. You sound like a muslim conspiracist. Muslism feel that entire world is out to get them and now Marathis feel that entire NI is scheming against them. Railway, if I know is a central agency so anybody can sit in exam and pass it. Is issue got to do with Railway jobs or Low wage migrants or Chat puja or Laloo yadav or what?? I think real agenda of MNS is to "isolate an enemy..a group" which cna be tragetted at...so they have chosen Biharis this time.
" Well raj thackrey or MNS never opposed any regional activitiy..Chat puja etc... "
I dont see the point. How is Kripa Sankar Singh more or less desirable in Mumbai than Raj Thakeray or Some other similar politicians?? If Shiv sena can politicise Dahi handis , Kripa Sankar or someone else can do same for some other festival. India is free country and as long as it is legal to do that..why not!
"Everybody who built mumbai is son of soil. Eve...."
And who decides who is building Mumbai or destorying it? MNS or Raj Thackeray? For now they have decided that Biharis are destroying it, tomorrow it could be someone else.
" This can not be more funny. You are ok with lalu... "
I said not a word on this about or about Laloo.. Mumbai is a global city and we need to protest anybody trying to make it into his personal fiefdom (Mumbai kisike baap ke nahin).
"I initially thought you just opposed raj thackrey for his "rada" theories. "
As for as I am concerned, Only way I have known Shiv Sena and now MNS is that they want to make thier own rule, play the police, the judge and hangman. The issues which they take up can change as convenient to them. I see no difference between Shiv sena and MNS. They have targetted tamils, gujratis and muslims...they never solve real concern but only agitate people emotionally and then rule them. But what is more worrying about them is that they really belive in "Sena" and strong arm tactics which is dangerous.
written by meemarathi 1291 days ago
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HI undie (undercover) !
You can only deny stats, if you have right ones.
You see no problem with lesser maharashtrians selected among 53000, but you change topic by going into Muslim conspiracies issue. Well, majority is majority. you cannot go against it. And majority in Maharashtra feels that MNS has raised right topic. This majority can be seen in this site too. We really don't care now what people from other state think.. It's only Maharashtra where we want to live with enough resources ( water, electricity ) for 24/7 use. These resources take many years to Produce and 1-2 months to distribute. So Maharashtra, especially mumbai is suffocating under the weight of these migrants. At one side Congress is doing nothing to produce more power, even after seeing agitation of people, and other side, whoever raise any issue against these migrants is being jailed.
Raj alone can't do anything and i see now congress and SS leaders also supporting him. It may be a politics, but it's fact that marathi youth is more supportive for MNS that any other party.
Again, you cannot deny majority, I know that you will deny this too, but Majority is with MNS is a fact.
written by undercover 1291 days ago
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@meemarathi
You are funny in your arguments, specially with Plague comment. It is funny. India is the homeland. Maharshtra is a subset of India not the otherway around. Untill now that is.
If a bihari barber can do a haircut in 20rs, why shouldnt I go to him!! Before Biharis, you guys had problems with South Indians and Gujratis also. So dont you think that there might be problem with YOU?? Many marathi intelectuals have pointed out that Marathis do not do low end, menial jobs and prefer safer 9-5 govt jobs! Why dont you listen to them and do something about it!!
I am hardly a samaj sudharak but you to me look like someone who has never tarvelled outside yout village or town. Go, boy, there is a world outside. See it, it will broaden your outlook.
And I dont have to prove my credentials to you by commenting on Punjabis and Assamese. Mumbai is not Punjab or Assam. And in anyway, I think hatred against Biharis is synomymous with us Indians's inherent racist traits. We like to beat those who do menial work, those who live on very periphery of our system. And pretext is often called "snatching of jobs". Bullshit.
written by meemarathi 1291 days ago
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So bullshit is the thing that's comes from ur mouth.
"You are funny in your arguments, specially with Plague comment." ---- What is so funny? you have very bad sense of humor. What i stated was a truth. it doesn't become false if you deny it.
"you guys" -- means who ?
"Many marathi intelectuals" --- Who? please post their names.
"prefer safer 9-5 govt jobs!"-- Go and look into offices where marathi guys work for almost 14 hours, if you are talking about govt. jobs, its the universal behaviour spread all over india. Right from Kashmir to kanyakumari.
"Why dont you listen to them and do something about it!!"-- You tell us, what can we do?
I am hardly a samaj sudharak but you to me look like someone who has never tarvelled (correction - traveled) outside yout (your) village or town. Go, boy, there is a world outside. See it, it will broaden your outlook." -- Sorry man, i can send a scan of my passport to you to show my Visiter's Visas, but i don't want to do that. Also have a look at this website http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/ and post your valuable comments there as well.
I suggest you look for meaning of xenophobia. I dont understand how Laloo is main villain. He is one of villains, a sidekick perhaps, like Maharshtra Govt.
Main villain is MNS.
And in this ramayan, there seems to be no heroes but only villains each with thier own Senas. And Mumbai is getting gangraped which is saddest part.
written by undercover 1291 days ago
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@meemarathi
About plague comment, If such a catastrophe had to happen, , everybody would fled, including you and you might find shelter in Bihar or UP or South. Those who are rich and have money and means will be first to flee regardless of caste creed or religion. So is that the criteria of judging Son of soil?
"you guys" -- means who .....? "
You here means those who support MNS and its agenda.
"Many marathi intelectuals" --- Who? please post their names.
" Go and look into offices where marathi guys work for almost 14 "
Many marathi manoos and intelectuals have written extensively on it. About marathi manoos love for a safe job and reluctance to do menial job or taking risky businesses. Smaple below.. For rest try google or read Hindustan times or publications where people analyse and comment without getting too emotional.
1.) Shoba De in Interview on TV said:
Shobhaa De: They (Maharashtrians) are too laid back and also there’s a certain intellectual arrogance which means Maharashtrians will not do the kind of jobs like dhobis (washermen), darbans (attendants), bhel-puri waala (street-food shop owner), taxi driver – which they consider, may be, a little demeaning and beneath themselves. But there are articulate, intelligent, educated Maharashtrians who are also not getting a shot at jobs. I can really understand their peeve too.
My own experience has been rather bad with a marathi speaking taxi driver recently, who offloaded me half way and then showed his Shiv Sena card and a Local laundry guy, who became abusive when I questioned him spoling my shirt during ironing. I dont want to stereotype , but I have found that in cities, migrants are often more reliable, hard working and professionals whereas locals tend to pick fights due to some kind of native arrogance. That use to be culture of Mumbai...A true cosmopolitan city
"Sorry man, i can send a scan of my passport to you to sh...."
Please spare me the trouble. You might have travelled across the globe but with your arguments, you still sound very parochial and narrow.
"Mumbai is not Punjab or Assam.--- Why and How?"
Does that even require an answer??
written by meemarathi 1291 days ago
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So you don't have any answer for my last question.
You are truly a very wise, open-minded person, and you also know how to change topics.
I don't want to comment on your argument of "who is good and who is bad Or who works hard", but it's fact that non-maharastrian lobby doesn't want marathis to do business. They arrange many economic and legal barriers for Marathi businessmen. Don't ask for any statistics here, as you said , you can google it.
Why shouldn't marathi look for safe job? but if given opportunity, he can do "any" work to feed his family. This opportunity is being stolen by migrants.
At one side you state that, marathis doesn't want to do menial jobs, then you give examples of marathi taxiwala and laundry wala. thats conflicting.
Whats happening is Maharashtra is not new. It is happening all over the world. The only difference is that, their government choose the migrants, and we have to accept every migrant from outside Maharashtra, even from Bangladesh.
Lets wait till elections.
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@meemarathi
Majority?? You are minority in India right now. Supporting MNS will only balkanise India and everybody will lose. May be Raj Thackery and MNS will create a separate country from Maharshtra and will rule it happily every after. Because what he is doing right now is against what nation states are and what India is.
Your peeve on Migrants spoiling Mumbai is just a convenient lie being told many times over to make it a truth. You want to believe in it because it puts blame on others and not on you for your sufferings (whatever they might be..real or imagines). You are only targetting Biharis and Bhayyas because they are easy to target. Why not target Bollywood, businesmesn like tatas, gujratis and many others! Drive them away. What would Mumbai be without them!!!
written by meemarathi 1291 days ago
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Undie,
It's a wasting of time by commenting on your comments. it seems that you've plenty of time to waste on typing, but i don't.
you have (wrong and baseless)answers on everything, may be you are born for it.
Everybody is seems to be avoiding you. so do i..
Happy typing.
written by undercover 1291 days ago
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@meemarathi
"Whats happening is Maharashtra is not new. It is happening all over the world. "
Kid, Maharshtra is not another country yet. And in India we dont have need of passport to travel across states. May be you didn't know that.
As for as your point of some invisible lobby stopping marathis from doing business is concerned, that has to be a addition to conspiracy theories which we indians are best in world. What is next theory you coming up with? God conspiring against marathi manoos!!
About Mumbai being Punjab and Assam,...you need to read a bit of Mumbai history and how Mumbai became a dream city a city which represents Idea of India, not idea of Maharashtra alone.
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@ meemarathi
Yeah avoid me. Good for me. Jai Hind.
written by prashu 1291 days ago
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instead of we avoiding you, why don't u avoiding giving those bullshit it will be better for Marathi Manus
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Well, after reading these comments its quite clear how divisive politicians can brainwash junta to become extremists...Most here supporting Raj talk his extremists and divisive ideologies in different tones. Banning TV channels?? Killing North Indians?? Expelling "outsiders"??
What does this all lead to?? What would Shivaji Maharaj have to say to all this insanity??
What has happend to the pledge we take while in school..
NATIONAL PLEDGE:
India is my country. All Indians are my brothers and sisters.
I Love my country. I am proud of its rich and varied culture. I shall always strive to be worthy of it.
I shall love and respect my parents, teachers and elders.
To my country and my people I pledge my devotion
FYI: National Integration Pledge
I solemnly pledge to work with dedication to preserve and strengthen the freedom and integrity of the nation.
I further affirm that I shall never resort to violence and that all differences and disputes relating to religion, language, region or other political or economic grievances should be settled by peaceful and constitutional means.
In their well being and prosperity alone lies my happiness.
I do not think the comments here would merit any further response for me..Its for individuals to decide..
Best Regards,
A True Maratha.
written by prashu 1291 days ago
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Dear Ajinkya,
We will love to know qualities of a True Maratha. Pls put it forward............
written by MANOOS 1276 days ago
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MARATHI & MAHARASHTRA LOVING FRIENDS,
WE MARATHIS SHOULD SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
USE PUBLIC TRANSPORT/OWN VEHICLES FOR COMMUTING, MNS SHOULD FORM AC MINI BUS FROM RAILWAY STATIONS SO THAT BHAIYYA AUTOS/TAXIS WALLAS WILL STARVE & GO BACK.
BUY VEGETABLES/FRUITS FROM D-MARTS, MALLS,.
TRAFFIC POLICE SHOULD PENALISE ERRANT DRIVERS (WE KNOW BHAIYYAS WHO DONOIT HAVE TRAFFIC SENSE) TRAFFIC POLICE SHOULD BE POSTED ALL OVER MUMBAI 24 HOURS.
RTO OFFICES, RATIONING OFFICES, GOVERNMENT OFFICES, MUNICIPAL CORPORATION STAFF SHOULD DEMAND HEFTY BRIBE FROM BHAIYYAS FOR GIVING THEM LICENCES SO THAT THEY WILL STARVE FOR EVEN A PENNY.
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Barobar ahe tuza. Nustach BAN nahi tar kaydeshir karawai zali pahije. Konihi lungya sungya uthato ani ya channels var kahi pan dhakhavat sutato. Police complaint karun kortat khechala pahije ya haramkhorana...
Main mhanje, marathi manus ekvatalela tyana nako ahe. Ani mhanun te he sagla karat ahet. Pan gammat mhanje tyancya hya chawat panamule marathi manus ekatra yeun ashya blog madhun charya kartoy.......
Ban all hindi channels??? :D
Why not ban English channels too?
Yup Agree Ban Hindi news channel. Complete Idiots they r .Good for nothing.These idiots made Rahul Raj Hero. Can't u see they r complete nuts.One guy who has gun in his hand trying to highjack a bus what this stupid bihari media wants is Police shld ask for his biodata there.Nonsense.
Shahid bhagat singh banan diya usko.
Another thing from Day one Raj has been saying that he is not against chat puja but he is against growing political involvment in it.Same thing he said again in his recent press conference he hasn't changed a single word from his agenda.But this hindi media now says he has 2 faces and he is pschyo.
Pakka Bihari media hai hindi . NO dimag at all. They have always presented Raj in very wrong manner.Why will not MNS beat up media guys?
@funaholic Also ban Tamil, Telgu and Other language channels because if you happen to follow them, then you wouldn't find great praise for Raj Thakeray in them either!
Basically ban anything which is not saying what you want to hear. I say, why not use the remote and switch off yout TV!!
If Chat Puja is polticised, then what about Ganesh festivala and dahi Handi!!
If you want MNS to beat yp Media guys , today; tomorrow they might want to beat you on some other pretext. And if you support this kind of state of affairs (beating media, doctors, teachers, lovers), then your neighbour who might have more muscles than you, could take your parking place by just thrashing you....
Arebaba Not bcoz I Support Raj Thackrey But bcoz They r passing wrong info. Yaar Bhad mein gaye News channel I support raj I dont care If anybody support him or not. I dont force anybody to support him either.Its indiviual choice.
As far as Journalism is concern I say give only right info.These guys were shouting that A guy named pawan was killed in MNS agitation i.e he was beaten up by MNS But that story was completely fake. No hindi channel rectified it afterwards. Non you think That its their responsibility .
Now Simple thing Rahul Raj what do you think abt him. If you would have seen the way this media has dramatised the whole thing. Do you think it was right. Only bcoz he was a NI is allowed to do anything. Mumbai kya UP bihar hai kya.Use commen sense yaar.
Media job is to give right info of whats going around.But Nowdays what u see is it is used as a medium to agitate political matters.
Another thing ganesh Festival or Dahi handi mein Bahdkau Bhashan nahi deta koi bhi. Jo ki last time chat puja mein diye gaye the.
Under cover Seriously mein cover hata yaar.
I want hindi channels to be banned not because i support raj thackrey. I want them banned just because there quality of content is pathetic. For that matter even if there are any marathi channels with such quality, they should be banned too.
BTW i find your comments similar to these channels quite often :) .. you start with channels .. talk about chat puja and ends of MNS beating :)
@kiran Use remote. It is a great tool. It switches off those frequencies which you do not want to connect to.
You can not judge quality of content. You might find something good but others might find same thing lame. So who is going to decide? In fact for that matter somebody might find quality of content on this site "pathatic" and demand it to be banned.
Banning anything is of no use, I thought we knew it by now! If we have to ban, then we have to ban everything - all the Balaji serials, hindi music (damaging to kids' values), english movies (damaing to eveyone's values) and so on.
I personally think listening to people who disagree with my beliefs is important. If I only listen to people who agree, then I think I become some kind of Taliban!! :D
How can u compare Journalism with these serails asthi? Dont u think they shld be more responsible. Ekta kappor serials will not cause agigation in between people and states. But wrong journalism can right.These guys are passing wrong info. They r even dangerous then politicians.They shld be fined for passing wrong info.
It was only Star Maja and Doordarshan news Which I appreciate Were doing their jobs rightly Just giving news of whats happening nothing else.
Lokmat ka Nikhil wagale ko to fatkana hi chahiye Kasam se.
yea, you are actually correct :)
funaholic,
They have a different perspective and market. It may be totally wrong, but allowing opposing points of view to clash is critical in democracy. Otherwise we are like North Korea or something :D
Will it work if Maharashtrian channels show north indian point of view, and hindi channels show maharasthrian point of view? No na. It is by clashing that balance comes in the end. But we should try more to understand each other. That is not happening. It is all Us or Them.
In a democracy, we should disagree with each other. And then argue, debate. Thats how democracy forms a balance in the end.
Hindi channels do not know maharathrian thinking, so they react their way. I would also say, marathi channels dont know north indian thinking, so they react their way too. Let them.
Serials are damaging in many other ways, right?!! MTV is damaging too, what I see on MTv or hindi music channels, to see that much nudity, earlier one had to go for a porn movie!
Before we condemn those who become terrorists, we should condemn people who create enviornment where terrorism spreads. Right Agreed. Then How come MNS is criminal. That why Maharastra Govt and lalu Is criminal Why r u blaming MNS then.That way even they r right na.
Why this whole thing happened bcoz Lalu is snatching all railway jobs not from mumbai but from other states to Up -bihar. So dont u see this as environment where agitation spread.hmm undercover.Isn't this injustice.
Make same laws for everybody.
About Dahi handi, I have heard many bahsans from Local Shiv Sena neta in my locality.... Like this to Hum log apna local blgsite Marathi katta pe bhi bhashan dete hai Par isko News coverage thodi na milta hai. Its imp undercover who is saying it and saying it where.
@funholic
No, MNS is not right. They are running a hate compaign just the way Bajrang dal or even VHP does.MNS has created a wedge among people (the way Shiv sena did with South indians). MNS's agenda is largely made up of half truths coupled with street violence. It is same as early days of Nazi party. Maharashtra Government is similarily culpable as was Gujrat government and Modi.
I dont know how much truth is there in "Laloo snatching" railway jobs. What if I said that Sharad Powar is snatching everything related to agriculture (taking to Maharashtra)!! Even if Laloo is doing that , we should fight him in a legal and constitutional way, not by beating students.
Laws are same for everybody.
IF dahi handi and Ganeshutsav can be politicised , why not chat puja or Id or Muhharam!!
Ultemately MNS is just creating a political space for itself by using a very old political tool of divide and rule. And they have taken it to another level by using violence and hate.
@undercover,
"MNS's agenda is largely made up of half truths coupled with street violence"
Cant you say the same for these channels .
Raj Thackerays speeches were quoted without the actual context.Some channels completely distorted & sensationalised things he had said.Why cant they publish the complete news.
When the major media sings a similar tune the public generally assumes it is being honestly informed.These media channels spin and color stories to suit their agenda. They are misguiding public over certain remarks by RT.Now if that causes violence In bihar, who is responsible for the damage caused.In the Pawan Kumar kumar incident they made it appear as if MNS was responsible for his death.It was followed by violence. Trains,buses were set ablaze.Shouldnt they be held accountable for incidents like these?
What if I said that Sharad Powar is snatching everything related to agriculture (taking to Maharashtra)!!
Well thats the problem UnderCover that he is not...Laloo is giving the railway jobs to people from bihar on a priority basis and Vidarbha Farmers are dying.Thats why we need somebody who atleast understands issues from maharashtra
IF dahi handi and Ganeshutsav can be politicised , why not chat puja or Id or Muhharam!!
ID/muharram/dahi handi/Ganeshotsavs are maharashtrian festivals which have history and celeberated for many years. Chat puja started recently on a large scale (some 3/4 years ago )to demonstrate the political strength of NI politicians like Krupa Shankar Singh and Sanjay Nirupam.
Thats the whole point.The influx becoming a votebank and threatening the very existence of the sons of the soils.
Even our problems wont be our own. They would have resemblance to lucknow and patna
Guys, Undercover is like "Zoplelyala Jaga karta yete pan zopecha dhong ghyenarya la nahi"
His own agenda is to target MNS and he is doing it very well. Imagine if could have been in Bihar, Laloo would have honored him with some award.
He really do not want to look this issue from Maharashtrian point of view. Reasons best known to him only and we are least interested in those reasons. And just look at his remarks about Laloo. He always use "might be" kind of words which clearly says that he do not want to utter a single word against Laloo but since Laloo's WORK is spilt wide & open hence Our friend Undercover is using such words in praise of Laloo.
I sincerly request you all not to indulge and waste our time in giving replies to such damaged beyond repaire kindaa people.
Better we will discuss something for socio-economical development of Marathi Manoos.
Jai Maharashtra
@prashu
Intersentengly "Zoplelyala Jaga karta yete pan zopecha dhong ghyenarya la nahi" applies very well to you. It is you who are pretending to be asleep thinking that MNS is really going to re-construct Maharahstra or Mumbai by driving away few migrants. (well last time it was south indians in 60! and next it couold be someone else).
I have no agenda except agenda of being indian. I have no respect for MNS, SIMI, Bajrang DAL and thier ilks. I have no respect for people like Laloo, Paswan or Mayawati either. But I dont see why I am supposed to utter words against Laloo or someone else!!! We are disucssing xenophobia and hatred launched by MNS in Mumbai so how does Laloo comes in picture except that he is using opportunity given by MNS to play his own game.
And why do you people take references from Laloo...do you want to stoop to his level??
-Jai Hind
aaishapatttttttttt @undercover
We are disucssing xenophobia and hatred launched by MNS in Mumbai so how does Laloo comes in picture?
Laloo is lead villain in this whole picture.Par picture abhi baki hai mere Dost ;)
Akha Ramayan ikavlyavar hey vichartat ki Rama Chi Sita Kon? Ghya ahe uttar. Mee tar niruttar ahe.
Undercover na majha koprya varun dandavat.
Mumbai is Marathi province.let me put my view. Guess if plague emerges in Mumbai.. What will all migrants do? They will return to their homeland. The only people left in mumbai will be marathis who are and have relatives staying in mumbai since decades.
Outsiders only come to snatch jobs and opportunities.If they come here to do low income jobs which locals do not take up for various reasons, they should focus on it only. Now if any outsider who can trim your hairs in 20Rs, why will somebody go to saloon owned by Marathi who charges Rs35 ( As recommended by barber's association)?
I read various comments by undercover, and i can say that he has problems with almost everybody. He is kind of so called Samajsudharak and he gets some "naram mitti" here to dig. The real samaj that needs people like undercover is north india, especially Bihar and UP.
@undercover : let us see links of your comments posted to teach Punjabi's and Assamese who are also against biharis.
"I would rather go with Channels than MNS. Channels are lesser evil than MNS."
-- This is a carpet statement without being specific. Everybody knows these channels accelarate wrong things. One taxi burnt by MNS few months ago and the airing is for whole day. I don't want to support violent act by MNS but some channels are just inflating the issues and generating haterate among communities.
"Except for Maharashtra nobody else has made such a noise about Railways..why"
-- Because 53000 maharastrian candidates sat in the railway exams in year 2002 and only 50 odd passed. Is lalu justified by favouring regionlism in railway jobs. Especially jobs in maharashtra ?
"So what if some people are celebrating Chat puja now??"
-- Well raj thackrey or MNS never opposed any regional activitiy what he opposed is politicisation of such events. There are more navaratri mandal ran by mahrashtrians today then gujarati's. You are correct that some places bhshanbaji happens. Tilak started ganeshotsav for similar reasons. By comparing chat puja with these things you can win the logical debate, but we all know the exact reason for chat puja organized by krupashankar singh in mumbai. We need neither raj thackrey nor lalu to tell that to us.
"Son of soil"
-- Everybody who built mumbai is son of soil. Everybody who will destroy this beautiful city will be targeted by son of soils (again not by violence).
"Instead of Focussing on city like Mumbai, Maharashtrian politicians would do better if tey focus on rest of Maharashtra"
-- This can not be more funny. You are ok with lalu focussing in mumbai but you are not ok with maharashtrian politicians looking into it. What exactly that you want ?
I initially thought you just opposed raj thackrey for his "rada" theories. But i feel you hate raj thackrey and MNS blindly and believes that he has no agenda but his own personal gains. Well you might be correct. But that doesn't mean whatever concern he has raised are incorrect .. at least not all of them.
HI undie (undercover) !
You can only deny stats, if you have right ones.
You see no problem with lesser maharashtrians selected among 53000, but you change topic by going into Muslim conspiracies issue. Well, majority is majority. you cannot go against it. And majority in Maharashtra feels that MNS has raised right topic. This majority can be seen in this site too. We really don't care now what people from other state think.. It's only Maharashtra where we want to live with enough resources ( water, electricity ) for 24/7 use. These resources take many years to Produce and 1-2 months to distribute. So Maharashtra, especially mumbai is suffocating under the weight of these migrants. At one side Congress is doing nothing to produce more power, even after seeing agitation of people, and other side, whoever raise any issue against these migrants is being jailed.
Raj alone can't do anything and i see now congress and SS leaders also supporting him. It may be a politics, but it's fact that marathi youth is more supportive for MNS that any other party.
Again, you cannot deny majority, I know that you will deny this too, but Majority is with MNS is a fact.
@meemarathi
You are funny in your arguments, specially with Plague comment. It is funny. India is the homeland. Maharshtra is a subset of India not the otherway around. Untill now that is.
If a bihari barber can do a haircut in 20rs, why shouldnt I go to him!! Before Biharis, you guys had problems with South Indians and Gujratis also. So dont you think that there might be problem with YOU?? Many marathi intelectuals have pointed out that Marathis do not do low end, menial jobs and prefer safer 9-5 govt jobs! Why dont you listen to them and do something about it!!
I am hardly a samaj sudharak but you to me look like someone who has never tarvelled outside yout village or town. Go, boy, there is a world outside. See it, it will broaden your outlook.
And I dont have to prove my credentials to you by commenting on Punjabis and Assamese. Mumbai is not Punjab or Assam. And in anyway, I think hatred against Biharis is synomymous with us Indians's inherent racist traits. We like to beat those who do menial work, those who live on very periphery of our system. And pretext is often called "snatching of jobs". Bullshit.
So bullshit is the thing that's comes from ur mouth.
"You are funny in your arguments, specially with Plague comment." ---- What is so funny? you have very bad sense of humor. What i stated was a truth. it doesn't become false if you deny it.
"you guys" -- means who ?
"Many marathi intelectuals" --- Who? please post their names.
"prefer safer 9-5 govt jobs!"-- Go and look into offices where marathi guys work for almost 14 hours, if you are talking about govt. jobs, its the universal behaviour spread all over india. Right from Kashmir to kanyakumari.
"Why dont you listen to them and do something about it!!"-- You tell us, what can we do?
I am hardly a samaj sudharak but you to me look like someone who has never tarvelled (correction - traveled) outside yout (your) village or town. Go, boy, there is a world outside. See it, it will broaden your outlook." -- Sorry man, i can send a scan of my passport to you to show my Visiter's Visas, but i don't want to do that. Also have a look at this website http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/ and post your valuable comments there as well.
Mumbai is not Punjab or Assam.--- Why and How?
@meemarathi
About plague comment, If such a catastrophe had to happen, , everybody would fled, including you and you might find shelter in Bihar or UP or South. Those who are rich and have money and means will be first to flee regardless of caste creed or religion. So is that the criteria of judging Son of soil?
"you guys" -- means who .....? "
You here means those who support MNS and its agenda.
"Many marathi intelectuals" --- Who? please post their names.
" Go and look into offices where marathi guys work for almost 14 "
Many marathi manoos and intelectuals have written extensively on it. About marathi manoos love for a safe job and reluctance to do menial job or taking risky businesses. Smaple below.. For rest try google or read Hindustan times or publications where people analyse and comment without getting too emotional.
1.) Shoba De in Interview on TV said:
Shobhaa De: They (Maharashtrians) are too laid back and also there’s a certain intellectual arrogance which means Maharashtrians will not do the kind of jobs like dhobis (washermen), darbans (attendants), bhel-puri waala (street-food shop owner), taxi driver – which they consider, may be, a little demeaning and beneath themselves. But there are articulate, intelligent, educated Maharashtrians who are also not getting a shot at jobs. I can really understand their peeve too.
My own experience has been rather bad with a marathi speaking taxi driver recently, who offloaded me half way and then showed his Shiv Sena card and a Local laundry guy, who became abusive when I questioned him spoling my shirt during ironing. I dont want to stereotype , but I have found that in cities, migrants are often more reliable, hard working and professionals whereas locals tend to pick fights due to some kind of native arrogance. That use to be culture of Mumbai...A true cosmopolitan city
"Sorry man, i can send a scan of my passport to you to sh...."
Please spare me the trouble. You might have travelled across the globe but with your arguments, you still sound very parochial and narrow.
"Mumbai is not Punjab or Assam.--- Why and How?"
Does that even require an answer??
So you don't have any answer for my last question.
You are truly a very wise, open-minded person, and you also know how to change topics.
I don't want to comment on your argument of "who is good and who is bad Or who works hard", but it's fact that non-maharastrian lobby doesn't want marathis to do business. They arrange many economic and legal barriers for Marathi businessmen. Don't ask for any statistics here, as you said , you can google it.
Why shouldn't marathi look for safe job? but if given opportunity, he can do "any" work to feed his family. This opportunity is being stolen by migrants.
At one side you state that, marathis doesn't want to do menial jobs, then you give examples of marathi taxiwala and laundry wala. thats conflicting.
Whats happening is Maharashtra is not new. It is happening all over the world. The only difference is that, their government choose the migrants, and we have to accept every migrant from outside Maharashtra, even from Bangladesh.
Lets wait till elections.
@meemarathi
Majority?? You are minority in India right now. Supporting MNS will only balkanise India and everybody will lose. May be Raj Thackery and MNS will create a separate country from Maharshtra and will rule it happily every after. Because what he is doing right now is against what nation states are and what India is.
Your peeve on Migrants spoiling Mumbai is just a convenient lie being told many times over to make it a truth. You want to believe in it because it puts blame on others and not on you for your sufferings (whatever they might be..real or imagines). You are only targetting Biharis and Bhayyas because they are easy to target. Why not target Bollywood, businesmesn like tatas, gujratis and many others! Drive them away. What would Mumbai be without them!!!
Undie,
It's a wasting of time by commenting on your comments. it seems that you've plenty of time to waste on typing, but i don't.
you have (wrong and baseless)answers on everything, may be you are born for it.
Everybody is seems to be avoiding you. so do i..
Happy typing.
@meemarathi
"Whats happening is Maharashtra is not new. It is happening all over the world. "
Kid, Maharshtra is not another country yet. And in India we dont have need of passport to travel across states. May be you didn't know that.
As for as your point of some invisible lobby stopping marathis from doing business is concerned, that has to be a addition to conspiracy theories which we indians are best in world. What is next theory you coming up with? God conspiring against marathi manoos!!
About Mumbai being Punjab and Assam,...you need to read a bit of Mumbai history and how Mumbai became a dream city a city which represents Idea of India, not idea of Maharashtra alone.
@ meemarathi
Yeah avoid me. Good for me. Jai Hind.
instead of we avoiding you, why don't u avoiding giving those bullshit it will be better for Marathi Manus
Well, after reading these comments its quite clear how divisive politicians can brainwash junta to become extremists...Most here supporting Raj talk his extremists and divisive ideologies in different tones. Banning TV channels?? Killing North Indians?? Expelling "outsiders"??
What does this all lead to?? What would Shivaji Maharaj have to say to all this insanity??
What has happend to the pledge we take while in school..
NATIONAL PLEDGE:
India is my country. All Indians are my brothers and sisters.
I Love my country. I am proud of its rich and varied culture. I shall always strive to be worthy of it.
I shall love and respect my parents, teachers and elders.
To my country and my people I pledge my devotion
FYI: National Integration Pledge
I solemnly pledge to work with dedication to preserve and strengthen the freedom and integrity of the nation.
I further affirm that I shall never resort to violence and that all differences and disputes relating to religion, language, region or other political or economic grievances should be settled by peaceful and constitutional means.
In their well being and prosperity alone lies my happiness.
I do not think the comments here would merit any further response for me..Its for individuals to decide..
Best Regards,
A True Maratha.
Dear Ajinkya,
We will love to know qualities of a True Maratha. Pls put it forward............
MARATHI & MAHARASHTRA LOVING FRIENDS,
WE MARATHIS SHOULD SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
USE PUBLIC TRANSPORT/OWN VEHICLES FOR COMMUTING, MNS SHOULD FORM AC MINI BUS FROM RAILWAY STATIONS SO THAT BHAIYYA AUTOS/TAXIS WALLAS WILL STARVE & GO BACK.
BUY VEGETABLES/FRUITS FROM D-MARTS, MALLS,.
TRAFFIC POLICE SHOULD PENALISE ERRANT DRIVERS (WE KNOW BHAIYYAS WHO DONOIT HAVE TRAFFIC SENSE) TRAFFIC POLICE SHOULD BE POSTED ALL OVER MUMBAI 24 HOURS.
RTO OFFICES, RATIONING OFFICES, GOVERNMENT OFFICES, MUNICIPAL CORPORATION STAFF SHOULD DEMAND HEFTY BRIBE FROM BHAIYYAS FOR GIVING THEM LICENCES SO THAT THEY WILL STARVE FOR EVEN A PENNY.
WE WHITE COLLAR PEOPLE SHOULD SUPPORT RT/MNS