महाराष्ट्र आणि मराठी माणसाच्या हिताची भूमिका आपण मांडत असताना कोणी लाठ्याकाठ्यांची भाषा केली तर त्याच लाठ्याकाठ्यांनी आम्ही त्यांची तिरडी बांधू. 'उत्तर भारतीय व मराठी माणूस' असा संघर्ष होऊ नये, अशी आपली मनापासून इच्छा आहे; पण तिकडून काठ्या उचलल्या जाणार असतील तर इकडून अन्य हत्यारे उचलली जातील, असा सणसणीत इशारा महाराष्ट्र नवनिर्माण सेनेचे अध्यक्ष राज ठाकरे यांनी 'महाराष्ट्र टाइम्स'शी संवाद साधताना दिला.
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written by funaholic 245 days ago
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I saw his entire speech on star maja news channel which only this channel had shown and I did not sense anything wrong in what he said. Infact I loved it :).I saw it again and again .After a long time I luved watching some leader addressing a rally which I used to luv long back when Bal Thackeray used to address such rallies.
Back to the point If you hear the entire speech He did not say anything wrong and it was not against “Uttarbhartiya“ which the other TV channels (non marathi) made it look like. As they never showed his entire speech but just showed few lines he spoke which obviously then appeared much more stern and aggressive.
He mainly targeted State Govt of Maharashtra for being partial which obviously they are. Here they can make a BHOJPURI movie Tax free but when question comes of doing something for marathi film Industry or drama industry they say “we don’t have budget.” I guess this topic was also discussed on katta If I m not wrong.
He questioned up, bihar govt as to why this govt is not taking responsibility of their people. Why they are not creating job opportunities for them their? Why cannot they see that its putting pressure on other states? Isn’t it their responsibility?
Thirdly in case of Amitabh Bachan. He was not against him starting a school there but he said that Mumbai gave Amitabh this stardom but when the question comes of giving priority he selected his own state for being a brand ambassador or for starting school or doing bhojpuri movies. So If such a man can give priority to his mother tongue then Why should not I? That was his question. He further said Amitabh Bachan is a brand name, why isn’t he voicing an issue of Maharashtra Farmers which will have a good impact.
I don’t know if yesterday’s speech of Raj Thackrey was a popularity or political stunt or whatever you call but I wish he is honest with what he said about marathi, Maharashtrians. I told my dad don’t you think raj Thackrey was a deserving candidate for Shiv Sena than Udhav?
written by saurabh 245 days ago - show/hide this comment
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Appreciated: Anger over State Govt of Maharashtra for being partial
Not Appreciated: Attack on North Indians
Why to target the people who had to left their home town for living!! Instead target the govt who made them do so.
Appreciated: Questioning bihar govt as to why this govt is not taking responsibility of their people
Appreciated:
1) Anger over state govt. for not promoting marathi film Industry or drama industry
Not appreciated: Discouraging tax-free status to bhojpuri because it is not marathi
Tax-free status should not be granted to films based on their language or region which they come from, rather the message it conveys to society.
It is always a positive approach to ask for more which you feels others are also getting, but don't you think its negative approach to take away something from someone because they are of other language speaking?
Does it provoke any positive thoughts?
written by kiran 245 days ago
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Agree entirely to
1)Other Channels manipulated what Raj Thackrey said in reality, he never insulted Amitabh bacchan. In fact Jaya Bacchan insuled Raj Thackrey and that was entierly political.
2)Bhojpuri films which are just 3-4 years old in mumbai can be tax free but 100 years old marathi theater is still orphan in its own state. Anger is justified.
written by saurabh 245 days ago
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Jaya Bacchan offered to build school in maharshtra if given land.
written by asthipanjar 245 days ago
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Kiran, i agree with sourabh there. Very logical and positive way of looking at things.
See, sourabh is being positive. Give tax free status to bhojpuri or not give it - the fact is, if you want promotion of Marathi culture, fight for THAT. No need to bring up something else for contrast all the time - thats typical of cunning politicians.
written by manishbhau 245 days ago
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That's the tragedy, Funaholic..
That it's been Raj Vs Uddhav
not Raj & Udhav Vs Amar & Abu
remember Panipat anyone? or more importantly the reasons for the defeat at Panipat..
'Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It'
Thackeray Sr., Udhav and Raj had the chance to change the face of Maharashtra. And all they did was to build flyovers in Mumbai. (not a bad thing.)
If you look in every state of India, you will find one leader who has legitimate issues, but blames it all on someone outside his potential votebank. A student of political science will instantly identify the standard trick.
I can always support legitimate anger and discussion. But leaders KNOW that when they say, this group of people are a problem in some areas, their party members understand it as "go and beat the fuckers." Communists, Congress, Sena, BJP have all used that tactic.
Rak wants to show to Maharashtrians that he is more pro-Marathi than Sena. And he's using tactics which worked for Sena earlier.
True, Raj did not directly attack North Indians. But how did his supporters interpret that?
Funaholic, Kiran, you are nice people. NICE people. Do not even think that ANY politician is like you. That is a big mistake.
Every politician, when he says something, has multiple objectives. Speaking to the audience, speaking to the media, speaking to party members. They know how to speak in such a way that intellectuals will debate it, people will think he makes sense, audience claps, media will edit and show the problematic lines, and goonda members of the party beats / kills / rapes. THEY KNOW exactly how it works.
This is about all politicians. Raj is just the latest example.
written by saurabh 245 days ago - show/hide this comment
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Saurabhjee Political stunt to Samjwadi bhi kar rahi hai.
Unki Latti mein aaj awaz nahi hai par jab padegi na Mumbai/maharastra pe tab aah karne ka bhi time nahi milega
written by saurabh 245 days ago - show/hide this comment
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Agree with you, these political party are acting in their own interest of getting cheap poularity by creating controversies over sensitive issues. They are not acting in benifit of us, public in general public.
written by asthipanjar 245 days ago
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funaholic,
SP too is doing that. In fact, SP, BSP, LJP, JD etc are the ones who are benefiting most from what happened with beating up north indians yesterday.
Raj has got his two minutes of fame, a few guys got thrashed.
A few guys got thrashed, now SP and others will definitely lose it.
Who is the loser after two days?
The normal decent Maharashtrian who may have issues but is definitely not a criminal.
written by vikas 245 days ago
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Saurabh Swamy:
Please think: If you have no problem with all these states giving quotas for their local people in their states, then why are still singing your meritocracy song?
Quotas are in Mumbai based colleges only, and not over all of Maharshtra...he he. Merit swamy, merit: how does your theory of merit alone prevailing square with 50 % Linguistic minority quota? Where is the merit/hard work/drive/energy and so on and so forth? Where is the cosmo song?
Appreciated: Reservations for local, not because he is marathi speaking but since he should not be forced to go long for education.... Swamy, why should reservations not be for Marathi speaking people? There can be reservations for Tamilains in TN, Keralites in KL, Goans in Goa, Punjabis in Punjab, Telugus in AP, Kannadigas in Karnataka, Bengalis in WB, Oriyas in Orissa, Gujaratis in Gujarart...and all these quotas can be there for these communtieis in our state AS WELL!! If quotas should not be for linguistic/religions-then why are you so silent on the linguistic minority quotas prevalent in Mumbai, Thane, Kalyan, Dombivili, Pen and so on? Where is your sentiment that quotas should not be there for lingustic/religious reasons?
After all this, you STILL OPPOSE reservations for Maharashtrians in Maharashtra? Dude, are you nuts?
Dont blame public for the decision taken by governments and politicians based their own interest and not in public interest...
Swamy, I am rolling in laughter!! What did you just say: not in public interest...which world are you living in? What do you mean...not in public interest? If it wasn't in the public interest, you think these guys would have done it? Who are you kidding? Who are you trying to fool...you think the local people didn't want it? You think the local people didn't want reservations? Didn't want seats ONLY FOR THEMSELVES? Didn;t want admission to be dabarred to non-locals? YOu honestly think that those poeple in other states WANT Non-locals or that they were upset and the politicians imposed it upon them? Dude, what public interest and their own interest?! The local people of these states WANT RESERVATION and THAT'S WHY the politicians GAVE IT TO THEM, the local people want reservation/quotas and that;s why politicos gave it to them. Understand that fact. THese guys are very happy to be 100 % local colleges/schools. You think the government took the decision without thinking of the local people? You think the local people are unhappy about this?
You think the Bengalis were anything but happy when they debarred non-BOngs from taking admission?
yeah right...who is the public in Haryana? Haryanvis...so who benefits from 25 % reservation...who else but Haryanvis?
Who is the public in Punjab? Punjus..so who benefits from 85 % reservation-who else but Punjabis?
Who is the public in TN? So who benefits but Tamilians?
So, to cut a long story short, these decisions are taken to benefit the local people BECAUSE QUOTAS BENEFIT THE LOCAL PEOPLE i.e. PUBLIC INTEREST, therefore when politicians reserve seats, they do it very much in public interest i.e. the local public..local people's interest.
Public interest in all states means that which is in the interest of the local people of that state. Reservations benefit LOCAL PEOPLE, hence these decisions are actually TOTALLY IN PUBLIC INTEREST, because reservations=local people=public interest.
Therefore, reservations for locals are in THE PUBLIC INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE of that state!!
Swamy, think a little. If it wasn't in the local people's interest, they would have opposed it right?! Complained right?! Made protest, candle light Marches, written letters of complaints-right? After all, if it isn;t in your interest, you'll complain right?
Swamy, think a little. If it wasn't in the local people's interest, they would have opposed it right?!
.....Have they? Swamy, have they?
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I await your answer, Swamy, I await your answer
written by saurabh 245 days ago - show/hide this comment
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Hi Vikas, I am not yet convinced for reservation based on language or religion.
I'll support you if you have right criteria based on humanity. If you say reservation be provided based on the locality, the right criteria would be those staying in vicinity of college be given preference. Again this is not based on the religion/language, but purely based on their place of stay.
If you ask for reservation of people under poverty line, again there is justification of supporting people who needs assistance in competing.
So you see I am not against reservation for Maharashtrians in general if you are including all Maharshtra residents as Maharashtrains. Its the people who make society, other language people who have stayed, built and contributed to the better developement of general public.
So reservation to local people (based on place of stay, not based on mother tongue) is justified if there is problem of travelling.
Please dont get me wrong, I am not against or in support of any languistic group.
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I saw his entire speech on star maja news channel which only this channel had shown and I did not sense anything wrong in what he said. Infact I loved it :).I saw it again and again .After a long time I luved watching some leader addressing a rally which I used to luv long back when Bal Thackeray used to address such rallies.
Back to the point If you hear the entire speech He did not say anything wrong and it was not against “Uttarbhartiya“ which the other TV channels (non marathi) made it look like. As they never showed his entire speech but just showed few lines he spoke which obviously then appeared much more stern and aggressive.
He mainly targeted State Govt of Maharashtra for being partial which obviously they are. Here they can make a BHOJPURI movie Tax free but when question comes of doing something for marathi film Industry or drama industry they say “we don’t have budget.” I guess this topic was also discussed on katta If I m not wrong.
He questioned up, bihar govt as to why this govt is not taking responsibility of their people. Why they are not creating job opportunities for them their? Why cannot they see that its putting pressure on other states? Isn’t it their responsibility?
Thirdly in case of Amitabh Bachan. He was not against him starting a school there but he said that Mumbai gave Amitabh this stardom but when the question comes of giving priority he selected his own state for being a brand ambassador or for starting school or doing bhojpuri movies. So If such a man can give priority to his mother tongue then Why should not I? That was his question. He further said Amitabh Bachan is a brand name, why isn’t he voicing an issue of Maharashtra Farmers which will have a good impact.
I don’t know if yesterday’s speech of Raj Thackrey was a popularity or political stunt or whatever you call but I wish he is honest with what he said about marathi, Maharashtrians. I told my dad don’t you think raj Thackrey was a deserving candidate for Shiv Sena than Udhav?
Agree entirely to
1)Other Channels manipulated what Raj Thackrey said in reality, he never insulted Amitabh bacchan. In fact Jaya Bacchan insuled Raj Thackrey and that was entierly political.
2)Bhojpuri films which are just 3-4 years old in mumbai can be tax free but 100 years old marathi theater is still orphan in its own state. Anger is justified.
Here is what Jaya Bacchan said:
http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1223039
If MNS thinks she has hurt sentiments of MNS workers, ask for public apology.
Fact: Big B house attacked
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/mnssp-clash-mumbai-simmers-big-b-house-attacked/58074-3.html
Jaya Bacchan offered to build school in maharshtra if given land.
Kiran, i agree with sourabh there. Very logical and positive way of looking at things.
See, sourabh is being positive. Give tax free status to bhojpuri or not give it - the fact is, if you want promotion of Marathi culture, fight for THAT. No need to bring up something else for contrast all the time - thats typical of cunning politicians.
That's the tragedy, Funaholic..
That it's been Raj Vs Uddhav
not Raj & Udhav Vs Amar & Abu
remember Panipat anyone? or more importantly the reasons for the defeat at Panipat..
'Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It'
funaholic,
SP too is doing that. In fact, SP, BSP, LJP, JD etc are the ones who are benefiting most from what happened with beating up north indians yesterday.
Raj has got his two minutes of fame, a few guys got thrashed.
A few guys got thrashed, now SP and others will definitely lose it.
Who is the loser after two days?
The normal decent Maharashtrian who may have issues but is definitely not a criminal.
Saurabh Swamy:
Please think: If you have no problem with all these states giving quotas for their local people in their states, then why are still singing your meritocracy song?
Quotas are in Mumbai based colleges only, and not over all of Maharshtra...he he. Merit swamy, merit: how does your theory of merit alone prevailing square with 50 % Linguistic minority quota? Where is the merit/hard work/drive/energy and so on and so forth? Where is the cosmo song?
Appreciated: Reservations for local, not because he is marathi speaking but since he should not be forced to go long for education.... Swamy, why should reservations not be for Marathi speaking people? There can be reservations for Tamilains in TN, Keralites in KL, Goans in Goa, Punjabis in Punjab, Telugus in AP, Kannadigas in Karnataka, Bengalis in WB, Oriyas in Orissa, Gujaratis in Gujarart...and all these quotas can be there for these communtieis in our state AS WELL!! If quotas should not be for linguistic/religions-then why are you so silent on the linguistic minority quotas prevalent in Mumbai, Thane, Kalyan, Dombivili, Pen and so on? Where is your sentiment that quotas should not be there for lingustic/religious reasons?
After all this, you STILL OPPOSE reservations for Maharashtrians in Maharashtra? Dude, are you nuts?
Dont blame public for the decision taken by governments and politicians based their own interest and not in public interest...
Swamy, I am rolling in laughter!! What did you just say: not in public interest...which world are you living in? What do you mean...not in public interest? If it wasn't in the public interest, you think these guys would have done it? Who are you kidding? Who are you trying to fool...you think the local people didn't want it? You think the local people didn't want reservations? Didn't want seats ONLY FOR THEMSELVES? Didn;t want admission to be dabarred to non-locals? YOu honestly think that those poeple in other states WANT Non-locals or that they were upset and the politicians imposed it upon them? Dude, what public interest and their own interest?! The local people of these states WANT RESERVATION and THAT'S WHY the politicians GAVE IT TO THEM, the local people want reservation/quotas and that;s why politicos gave it to them. Understand that fact. THese guys are very happy to be 100 % local colleges/schools. You think the government took the decision without thinking of the local people? You think the local people are unhappy about this?
You think the Bengalis were anything but happy when they debarred non-BOngs from taking admission?
yeah right...who is the public in Haryana? Haryanvis...so who benefits from 25 % reservation...who else but Haryanvis?
Who is the public in Punjab? Punjus..so who benefits from 85 % reservation-who else but Punjabis?
Who is the public in TN? So who benefits but Tamilians?
So, to cut a long story short, these decisions are taken to benefit the local people BECAUSE QUOTAS BENEFIT THE LOCAL PEOPLE i.e. PUBLIC INTEREST, therefore when politicians reserve seats, they do it very much in public interest i.e. the local public..local people's interest.
Public interest in all states means that which is in the interest of the local people of that state. Reservations benefit LOCAL PEOPLE, hence these decisions are actually TOTALLY IN PUBLIC INTEREST, because reservations=local people=public interest.
Therefore, reservations for locals are in THE PUBLIC INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE of that state!!
Swamy, think a little. If it wasn't in the local people's interest, they would have opposed it right?! Complained right?! Made protest, candle light Marches, written letters of complaints-right? After all, if it isn;t in your interest, you'll complain right?
Swamy, think a little. If it wasn't in the local people's interest, they would have opposed it right?!
.....Have they? Swamy, have they?
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I await your answer, Swamy, I await your answer