Living life on the edge, scrambling for a toehold on trains, snaking one’s way through traffic snarls, fighting to find a roof over one’s head all combine to make Mumbai the city that never sleeps — and Mumbaikars the people who die younger than the rest of the country.
A study has found that the average Mumbaikar is likely to die at least seven years before other Indians and about 12 years before people living in the rest of Maharashtra.
Despite economic growth and availability of good health facilities in the city, which normally lead to an increase in life expectancy in societies across the world, Mumbaikars on an average live to the age of 56.8 years. Life expectancy is 52.6 years for men and 58.1 years for women.
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written by asthipanjar 931 days ago
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My suggestion is that as we are incapable as running Mumbai as a proper metro, let us make it a non-metro. Stop all new building and development in Mumbai. Move all government offices beyond the borders of Mumbai, so population and accommodation will shift there. Preserve Mumbai as a cultural capital.
written by helo 931 days ago
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Well said ... and now according to me this article should be published in each and every newspapers especially of UP and Bihar ... So that it can stop some migration of people to Mumbai
written by asthipanjar 931 days ago
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Nothing will stop migration of people to Mumbai as long as Mumbai remains a metro. Metros anywhere in the world attract immigrants.
If you want to stop immigration, the only way is to make Mumbai a non-Metro. Let some other state have a metro instead! Metros have no loyalty to language, state, culture etc - but state capitals have that. If you work towards that by reducing the use of English, no infrastructure development, quotas etc, slowly the city will become less attractive to outsiders and they will go elsewhere.
Even beating up migrants does the same thing, but it has to be done systematically to have any effect. Say for one year, no one allows any train from Bihar to enter Mumbai. No trains should go to Bihar from Mumbai either. That may work.
written by sandeshp 931 days ago
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'Let some other state have a metro instead!' What & who is stopping them ??
get over your Raj-MNS obsession soon. too much stress is not good for long life
written by punchtantra 930 days ago
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Hindi Lyrics: Gaman (1979)
seene mein jalan aankhon mein tufaan saa kyon hain ?
is shahar mein har shaks pareshaan saa kyon hain ?
dil hain to, dhadakane kaa bahaanaa koee dhoondhe
patthar kee tarah beheesa-o-bejaan saa kyon hain
written by asthipanjar 930 days ago
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haha brilliant song, punch. I fell in love with it the first time I heard it.
written by kiran 929 days ago
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haha .. I remember this song my friend use to sing while smoking.
I think sandesh got offended with asthipanjar's idea of shifting metro to some other city (and systematic beating plan). But that's the way it would be.
written by prashu 929 days ago
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Core issue is why after 60 yrs, some states are still BIMARU and people from such bimaru state is mirgating to developed states and making these developed states BIMARU. Core issue is that development should be over all which will help people to earn in their own state which will resolve the issue.
Let Mumbai as it is and create opportunities elsewhere and see the change, Banguluru, Hydrabad, Gurgaon, Noida are some examples of such change. Let this happens in UP and Bihar which will reduce migration and ease excessive stress on Metros.
written by asthipanjar 929 days ago
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Prashu,
That is the biggest issue in fact. But thankfully things are getting better - Lalus days are over in Bihar, and their bahubali culture is under control now, thanks to Nitish Kumar.
UP is still a mess, but Rahul Gandhi is finally reestablishing Congress in UP. Next state elections, and finally UP will hopefully see a mainstream national party in power instead of Mulayam and Mayavati.
About migration to Mumbai - have you noticed, south indians have stopped migrating to Mumbai in large numbers after Bangalore, Hyderabad and Chennai slowly getting better. Most south Indians you see around now have been around for 10-15 years minimum now. Mumbai is not very attractive to them anymore. That is good.
Biharis already migrate more to Delhi and to Mumbai as Noida and Gurgaon are developing at superb rate with industries and metro trains. Culture-wise, Delhi is closer to UP and Bihar, and they are now increasingly going to Delhi instead of Mumbai. Land is abundant in Delhi-Noida-Gurgaon. Mumbai as the dream migration destination is slowly ending.
They will still continue to come to Mumbai for some more time. But not for very long.
written by kiran 929 days ago
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Whatever Prashu is saying is true, but there are lots of marathi crowds from interiors of maharashtra are also landing up on mumbai streets. This crowd is huge in numbers too. I think its not just UP and bihar we need to fix lots in out own state too.
written by manishbhau 929 days ago
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Economic migration may go on the decline, which is a very good sign.. but the next biggest challenge (and we seem to be totally unprepared for it) will be large-scale migration due to climate change.
Already water levels in the north including punjab, haryana, UP & bihar have dropped to unsustainable extent. Imagine the havoc when (not if) there is less rainfall, frequent drought & drying up of rivers there.. and the population going up all the time
written by iconoclast 929 days ago
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However, sir kindly allow me to difere. Manishbhau's stand is example of self compleciency. What about those who are already migrated to Maharashtra. The so called 11 crore population how many people are true Maharashtrains.
written by asthipanjar 928 days ago
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iconoclast,
who is a true maharashtrian? First we have to define that. And I am fraid if we do that, it will be an arbitrary definition. People from the rest of Maharashtra may think those in Mumbai are not true Maharashtrians culturally. It is said that the real India is in its villages. So is the same true for Maharashtra also?
Manishbhau,
North India now actually faces a different problem. Flooding. Due to global warming, glaciers are melting and flooding rivers. Notice how many floods happened in Bihar last year?
written by manishbhau 928 days ago
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With flooding the under ground water levels should have gone up not down. And what happens after all the glaciers have melted or china has built multiple dams and the flow reduced ? But all this is besides the original topic of the post :-)
written by prashu 928 days ago
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Kiran,
People from interior part of Maharashtra coming to Mumbai is quite justifiable as it they are comming to capital of their own states. Surely development of infrastructure will gave them jobs at their respective place will ease stress on cities like Mumbai, Pune. But for that we need a leadership with vision and plan who can think about entire Maharashtra and not only Mumbai, Pune and Baramati.
ashtipinjar
Maharashtrian is very simple term 'ne who consider Maharashtra it's own home and not a milking cow.
And why we should worry about natural calamities faced by Northan states. They are having their own administration unit to look after that. Even central govt. is also there to help them out.
We should be more worried about water scarecity in Maharashtra, load shedding issue, Farmers suiside etc. Whole Raigad district is becoming SEZ and hence we are loosing agricultural land, we need to be worried about this.
written by asthipanjar 928 days ago
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prashu,
If that is what a true maharashtrian is, I think we should get rid of all our politicians first! For some 20 years, they have done nothing but milk Mumbai dry.
written by sukabombil 928 days ago
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Too good. Fire all politicians. In fact Send them out of india.
written by prashu 928 days ago
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It is not that simple. Yes politicans should be blamed for the mess which is there. Please include political leaders of migration which are making Dadagiri on the basis of vote bank which they have cropped up here.
And why 20 yrs. Maharashtra states is 50 yrs old.Don't try to hide some and blame some.
written by iconoclast 928 days ago
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Sir
my definition is somewhat different. There are Gujarati's Marwadis, South Indians, Biharis, North Indians, Bengalis so on . It is impossible to send them there home state I agree but they should participate Marathi Manus in their prosperity.
At present my Grocer do not give job to Marathi Boy but he brings his works from his "Desh" or Rajasthani when his 99% customers are Marathi. We have pooh-poohed the Sanja Nirupam for his suggestion to curtail central allocation of funds to states like Bihar, U.P. and give to those states where the Bihari, U.P. people migrate. But it was practical. Within the ambit of constitution this question can not be solved. Then the alternatiave given by Nirupam is useful. But not only share of central allocation but Govt. has to give more jobs opportunities , Central Govt. investments to the aggrieved states. Now U.P.,Bihar usurp more share of national wealth and send their people to Mumbai. while thinking this problem please take into consideration that in Mumbai original Marathi People reduced to 28% only. This not position in other so called cosmopolitan cities like Kolkata,Chennai and Delhi. They have no right to preach provincial unity to Maharashtra. Not only Mumbai all over Maharashtra this influx of population has taken place and this is the main reason for rise in Maharashtra's population.
Simply I want to emphasize that Devada's, Dardas, Somayya's Kamat/Rao's,Bafan's Jain's Patel's, Shah's and so on in all party has right to prosper but they have to share their prosperity with Marathi Manus not with their state or their people. 27th July inundation made havoc in Maharashtra how many states helped the Maharashtra?
The same type of problem faced by Assam in different context . We all are aware how they have solved the problem. Before the things goes to such a pass the Central Union and other states should find out solution on the subject.
written by prashu 928 days ago
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totally agree, this is happening in IT sector also. in big companies, there is southern lobby who brings freshers from south states, arrange their accomodation (one room, 8-10 freshers. gives them on the job training and less pay packs and make them competetive and after getting experince these people gets high pay packs.
anyone listening.....??????
written by chhava45 927 days ago
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Agreed, our MH has became a lobby state, this lobby stuff has started couple of decades ago, when we wer high on national brotherhood/hindutva syndrome. These outsiders will never consider themselves part of ours. They will pretend it now bcoz of mns. Actually north ppl wants us marathi ppl to fight for hindutva and they will watch tamasha out of it. These english and guj newspapers are totally agaist marathi, in an interview tht gutter azmi said in 2004 he discussed with sainik nirupampam abt bhaiya students beating ,see the brotherhood , wake up marathi guys n galz now the time has come to be selfish abt our ppl and language. If u think tht anybody will participate us in progress or wateva , then we r fooling ourselves again doing the same mistake which is done by sena, all outsiders r hypocrites they will remain silent spectators nowdays but their atitude will never change, just think abt how they manage to spread 'where is raj and marathi manus' sms during nov. attack on atleast lakh mobiles in mumbai. Now smell this conspiracy and wake up and try to create our own marthi lobby. Regards
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My suggestion is that as we are incapable as running Mumbai as a proper metro, let us make it a non-metro. Stop all new building and development in Mumbai. Move all government offices beyond the borders of Mumbai, so population and accommodation will shift there. Preserve Mumbai as a cultural capital.
Well said ... and now according to me this article should be published in each and every newspapers especially of UP and Bihar ... So that it can stop some migration of people to Mumbai
Nothing will stop migration of people to Mumbai as long as Mumbai remains a metro. Metros anywhere in the world attract immigrants.
If you want to stop immigration, the only way is to make Mumbai a non-Metro. Let some other state have a metro instead! Metros have no loyalty to language, state, culture etc - but state capitals have that. If you work towards that by reducing the use of English, no infrastructure development, quotas etc, slowly the city will become less attractive to outsiders and they will go elsewhere.
Even beating up migrants does the same thing, but it has to be done systematically to have any effect. Say for one year, no one allows any train from Bihar to enter Mumbai. No trains should go to Bihar from Mumbai either. That may work.
'Let some other state have a metro instead!' What & who is stopping them ??
get over your Raj-MNS obsession soon. too much stress is not good for long life
Hindi Lyrics: Gaman (1979)
seene mein jalan aankhon mein tufaan saa kyon hain ?
is shahar mein har shaks pareshaan saa kyon hain ?
dil hain to, dhadakane kaa bahaanaa koee dhoondhe
patthar kee tarah beheesa-o-bejaan saa kyon hain
haha brilliant song, punch. I fell in love with it the first time I heard it.
haha .. I remember this song my friend use to sing while smoking.
I think sandesh got offended with asthipanjar's idea of shifting metro to some other city (and systematic beating plan). But that's the way it would be.
Core issue is why after 60 yrs, some states are still BIMARU and people from such bimaru state is mirgating to developed states and making these developed states BIMARU. Core issue is that development should be over all which will help people to earn in their own state which will resolve the issue.
Let Mumbai as it is and create opportunities elsewhere and see the change, Banguluru, Hydrabad, Gurgaon, Noida are some examples of such change. Let this happens in UP and Bihar which will reduce migration and ease excessive stress on Metros.
Prashu,
That is the biggest issue in fact. But thankfully things are getting better - Lalus days are over in Bihar, and their bahubali culture is under control now, thanks to Nitish Kumar.
UP is still a mess, but Rahul Gandhi is finally reestablishing Congress in UP. Next state elections, and finally UP will hopefully see a mainstream national party in power instead of Mulayam and Mayavati.
About migration to Mumbai - have you noticed, south indians have stopped migrating to Mumbai in large numbers after Bangalore, Hyderabad and Chennai slowly getting better. Most south Indians you see around now have been around for 10-15 years minimum now. Mumbai is not very attractive to them anymore. That is good.
Biharis already migrate more to Delhi and to Mumbai as Noida and Gurgaon are developing at superb rate with industries and metro trains. Culture-wise, Delhi is closer to UP and Bihar, and they are now increasingly going to Delhi instead of Mumbai. Land is abundant in Delhi-Noida-Gurgaon. Mumbai as the dream migration destination is slowly ending.
They will still continue to come to Mumbai for some more time. But not for very long.
Whatever Prashu is saying is true, but there are lots of marathi crowds from interiors of maharashtra are also landing up on mumbai streets. This crowd is huge in numbers too. I think its not just UP and bihar we need to fix lots in out own state too.
Economic migration may go on the decline, which is a very good sign.. but the next biggest challenge (and we seem to be totally unprepared for it) will be large-scale migration due to climate change.
Already water levels in the north including punjab, haryana, UP & bihar have dropped to unsustainable extent. Imagine the havoc when (not if) there is less rainfall, frequent drought & drying up of rivers there.. and the population going up all the time
However, sir kindly allow me to difere. Manishbhau's stand is example of self compleciency. What about those who are already migrated to Maharashtra. The so called 11 crore population how many people are true Maharashtrains.
iconoclast,
who is a true maharashtrian? First we have to define that. And I am fraid if we do that, it will be an arbitrary definition. People from the rest of Maharashtra may think those in Mumbai are not true Maharashtrians culturally. It is said that the real India is in its villages. So is the same true for Maharashtra also?
Manishbhau,
North India now actually faces a different problem. Flooding. Due to global warming, glaciers are melting and flooding rivers. Notice how many floods happened in Bihar last year?
With flooding the under ground water levels should have gone up not down. And what happens after all the glaciers have melted or china has built multiple dams and the flow reduced ? But all this is besides the original topic of the post :-)
Kiran,
People from interior part of Maharashtra coming to Mumbai is quite justifiable as it they are comming to capital of their own states. Surely development of infrastructure will gave them jobs at their respective place will ease stress on cities like Mumbai, Pune. But for that we need a leadership with vision and plan who can think about entire Maharashtra and not only Mumbai, Pune and Baramati.
ashtipinjar
Maharashtrian is very simple term 'ne who consider Maharashtra it's own home and not a milking cow.
And why we should worry about natural calamities faced by Northan states. They are having their own administration unit to look after that. Even central govt. is also there to help them out.
We should be more worried about water scarecity in Maharashtra, load shedding issue, Farmers suiside etc. Whole Raigad district is becoming SEZ and hence we are loosing agricultural land, we need to be worried about this.
prashu,
If that is what a true maharashtrian is, I think we should get rid of all our politicians first! For some 20 years, they have done nothing but milk Mumbai dry.
Too good. Fire all politicians. In fact Send them out of india.
It is not that simple. Yes politicans should be blamed for the mess which is there. Please include political leaders of migration which are making Dadagiri on the basis of vote bank which they have cropped up here.
And why 20 yrs. Maharashtra states is 50 yrs old.Don't try to hide some and blame some.
Sir
my definition is somewhat different. There are Gujarati's Marwadis, South Indians, Biharis, North Indians, Bengalis so on . It is impossible to send them there home state I agree but they should participate Marathi Manus in their prosperity.
At present my Grocer do not give job to Marathi Boy but he brings his works from his "Desh" or Rajasthani when his 99% customers are Marathi. We have pooh-poohed the Sanja Nirupam for his suggestion to curtail central allocation of funds to states like Bihar, U.P. and give to those states where the Bihari, U.P. people migrate. But it was practical. Within the ambit of constitution this question can not be solved. Then the alternatiave given by Nirupam is useful. But not only share of central allocation but Govt. has to give more jobs opportunities , Central Govt. investments to the aggrieved states. Now U.P.,Bihar usurp more share of national wealth and send their people to Mumbai. while thinking this problem please take into consideration that in Mumbai original Marathi People reduced to 28% only. This not position in other so called cosmopolitan cities like Kolkata,Chennai and Delhi. They have no right to preach provincial unity to Maharashtra. Not only Mumbai all over Maharashtra this influx of population has taken place and this is the main reason for rise in Maharashtra's population.
Simply I want to emphasize that Devada's, Dardas, Somayya's Kamat/Rao's,Bafan's Jain's Patel's, Shah's and so on in all party has right to prosper but they have to share their prosperity with Marathi Manus not with their state or their people. 27th July inundation made havoc in Maharashtra how many states helped the Maharashtra?
The same type of problem faced by Assam in different context . We all are aware how they have solved the problem. Before the things goes to such a pass the Central Union and other states should find out solution on the subject.
totally agree, this is happening in IT sector also. in big companies, there is southern lobby who brings freshers from south states, arrange their accomodation (one room, 8-10 freshers. gives them on the job training and less pay packs and make them competetive and after getting experince these people gets high pay packs.
anyone listening.....??????
Agreed, our MH has became a lobby state, this lobby stuff has started couple of decades ago, when we wer high on national brotherhood/hindutva syndrome. These outsiders will never consider themselves part of ours. They will pretend it now bcoz of mns. Actually north ppl wants us marathi ppl to fight for hindutva and they will watch tamasha out of it. These english and guj newspapers are totally agaist marathi, in an interview tht gutter azmi said in 2004 he discussed with sainik nirupampam abt bhaiya students beating ,see the brotherhood , wake up marathi guys n galz now the time has come to be selfish abt our ppl and language. If u think tht anybody will participate us in progress or wateva , then we r fooling ourselves again doing the same mistake which is done by sena, all outsiders r hypocrites they will remain silent spectators nowdays but their atitude will never change, just think abt how they manage to spread 'where is raj and marathi manus' sms during nov. attack on atleast lakh mobiles in mumbai. Now smell this conspiracy and wake up and try to create our own marthi lobby. Regards