Dear Mr Raj Thackeray,
I, Sandeep Deshpande,a Proud Marathi like you sincerely feel that the cause you have picked up is quite relevant and genuine but needs to be dealt with tact and moderation besides occasionally proving muscle only if required and there is sufficient reason. If you decide to prove muscle in everything you do, may be the real cause of marathi pride, will be lost somewhere and you may end up creating a image of Mahrahstrians, like what is of Muslims today in India and most countries within the christian world i.e even if large majority of muslims could be they are looked upon with suspicion for anything nowadays and thats true even in america and europe !!
Some of your endeavours like giving threats on Chhat Puja or threatening the Bachchan family are not in good taste.
Even iam living out of maharashtra for some time and cannot speak local language as doing one's job or profession doesnt give time to mingle with local people. Also if a middle class person like me can stay in a cosmopolitan complex and not have to deal with local language shopkeepers or service providers as so many malls and mac donalds have come up, that learning local language is not essential even in other parts of India. Also what will you do if Laloo or Amar singh do the same thing to our ganapati bappa festival in Bihar and UP?? Hence behave like a responsible political leader. Winning elections is essential and that does not mean we create a wrong image of our community across all sections and lose the sympathy of those few who feel that we have been sidelined in mumbai or maharashtra.
A wise ruler creates a movement which is just and takes up causes only which are correct. The cause of marathi sign boards is a good cause you have picked up, to show marathi pride and if some tough things have to be done , so be it and we support you for that.
Also instead of beating up taxi drivers why not thru some of your marathi business man friends start at least 20 taxi outside dadar/cst station and employ 40 marathi taxi drivers (2 shifts) to start with and where you give income to at least 40 marathi families in mumbai. Lets see if these 40 become 400 ?? This is the way to promote our community if you really want to.
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I, Sandeep Deshpande,a Proud Marathi like you sincerely feel that the cause you have picked up is quite relevant and genuine but needs to be dealt with tact and moderation besides occasionally proving muscle only if required and there is sufficient reason. If you decide to prove muscle in everything you do, may be the real cause of marathi pride, will be lost somewhere and you may end up creating a image of Mahrahstrians, like what is of Muslims today in India and most countries within the christian world i.e even if large majority of muslims could be they are looked upon with suspicion for anything nowadays and thats true even in america and europe !!
Some of your endeavours like giving threats on Chhat Puja or threatening the Bachchan family are not in good taste.
Even iam living out of maharashtra for some time and cannot speak local language as doing one's job or profession doesnt give time to mingle with local people. Also if a middle class person like me can stay in a cosmopolitan complex and not have to deal with local language shopkeepers or service providers as so many malls and mac donalds have come up, that learning local language is not essential even in other parts of India. Also what will you do if Laloo or Amar singh do the same thing to our ganapati bappa festival in Bihar and UP?? Hence behave like a responsible political leader. Winning elections is essential and that does not mean we create a wrong image of our community across all sections and lose the sympathy of those few who feel that we have been sidelined in mumbai or maharashtra.
A wise ruler creates a movement which is just and takes up causes only which are correct. The cause of marathi sign boards is a good cause you have picked up, to show marathi pride and if some tough things have to be done , so be it and we support you for that.
Also instead of beating up taxi drivers why not thru some of your marathi business man friends start at least 20 taxi outside dadar/cst station and employ 40 marathi taxi drivers (2 shifts) to start with and where you give income to at least 40 marathi families in mumbai. Lets see if these 40 become 400 ?? This is the way to promote our community if you really want to.
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Excellent post sandeep. Basically raj thackrey needs to take the cause more seriously and way to do that is more action then talking. What i meant here is more effective actions rather than beating and band stuff. Well that is also required but as sandeep said if it is needed most.
Mr. Deshpande, As an proud Indian I agree to your post, but when it comes to me as Maharashtrian I deny you, the reason being a true experience.
I'll tell you a incident which happened to my fellow friends, who decided to do business and start a jeans shop of their own; when they inquired for a shop for rent in the Gandhi market area near Kings Circle in Mumbai, they were asked the first question by the owner "Gujju che??" and when they nodded he refuse to rent the room. Paani Dokya varun gele aahe Deshpande saaheb. Mumbai madhe lobbies tyaar jhalya aahet. We keep on saying that "Marathi manus business karat nahi" but I say the outsiders who have gained strong hold on Mumbai markets are making their best efforts in keeping us far from the business.
But my fellow friends didn't stop here and they have started their shop in Vashi. Another bitter experience when they went to the Kapda Market (dominated by gujjus and marwaris) (Masjid Area) no one was willing to deal with them at reasonable rates. He could see gujjus customers having their deals done with reasonable rates by speaking in gujrati, but a marathi in Maharashtra is denied even of competing, and on other side BMC have recently waived off (not sure this one but import duties)tax for those kapda market kings.
Now you tell me. Apan aapla vivek kiti kaal shabut thevu shakto??? We are educated we can think and act. But tell me of those who are desperate to do something and who are kicked out in their hometown from doing so. Will they listen to you???
Overall I respect your feelings of being non-voilant at max but when something happens just think that clapping need 2 hands.
Regards
Trimbak D. Bankar
Trimbak, you are right. If you need to clean the shit .. somebody needs to get his hands dirty, and now raj thackery is doing it.
I agree with sandeep. This is getting very bad for the image of Maharashtrians. Outside Mumbai, people have already started making fun of Mumbai's people.
Trimbak is also right in another way. What he has said is true. Going against the trend and doing something new is never going to be easy. But the entire thing about Mumbai is that people do it, and they do it well, till the people who did not care about them yesterday tomorrow will come to you and behave. If your friends have that entrepreneurial spirit, nothing can stop them.
Raj Thackeray's tactics will mean we will have to pay a price. Maybe the price is that one generation of Maharashtrians will gain a bad image. Maybe that price is worth it. The choice is ours.
@asthipanjar, very diplomatic comment!!!
I'll personally prefer Sandeep's way of movement.
And I agree with you when you say "If your friends have that entrepreneurial spirit, nothing can stop them." We all are Indians and must respect and support each others. Please underline "support" and "respect", if they don't care to trace these words then force them like Raj.
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Trimbak D. Bankar
"Outside Mumbai, people have already started making fun of Mumbai's people"
> i think you meant to write 'maharashtrian' people at the end.. or did you mean to write 'Outside Maharashtra' at the begining..
pray tell us who is this 'people' that you refer to ?
Are you refering to the cosmopolitan Gujratis of cosmopolitan Ahmedabad, the cosmopolitan Punjabis of cosmopolitan Ludhiana, the cosmopolitan Haryanvis of cosmopolitan Delhi, the cosmopolitan Bengalis of cosmopolitan Calcutta (sorry Kolkata), the cosmopolitan Malayalees of cosmopolitan Trivandrum (sorry Thiruvananthapuram), the cosmopolitan Tamils of cosmopolitan Madras (sorry Chennai), the cosmopolitan goans? the cosmopolitan assamese ?
who is the 'people' who are making fun of Mumbai's 'people' ?
maybe you meant the cosmopolitan people of those two great cosmopolitan states UP and Bihar.. where, unlike parochial Maharashtra, people always elect their leaders strictly on basis of developmental issues and never on basis of caste politics..
My problem with Raj is this.
He thinks that tough action and the threat of violence will work. Most of his supporters seem to think so too.
I disagree because I don't think that kind of track works anymore.
Take Shiv Sena as an example. Their start was entirely like Raj. Now its 50 years and the result? I can see Maharasthrians are thanking Shiv Sena daily for the huge changes they made!
Raj too is using the same strategy to gain support.
What is the end result of Shiv Sena's tactics? The current situation.
Shiv Sena is in control of BMC. What is the right thing to do? Fix every problem in Mumbai, not a single pothole, full law and order, top class education for Maharshtrians.
What did we get? Mumbai screwed, roads bad, law and order gone, and no jobs. On top of that, they have the reputation of the no. 1 goonda party in India.
Raj is maintaining that tradition. It will end the same way.
Parties which start with aggression after some time find that they cannot stop it.
i have gone thru a lot of ur previous posts and see that you do seem to have lot of problems with Raj, MNS, SS, Sharad Pawar and other politicians of Maharashtra.. and their supporters
you might also have problems with other politicians of other states but you seem to ignore complaining about them.. or maybe you complain about them on their local forums (biharikatta.com ?).. or perhaps you are just like the media which you claim to have simply tired of complaining about them..
one thing you have not given up on is generalising that the problems of maharashtra are only on account of non-cosmopolitan and parochial maharashtrians..
"Take Shiv Sena as an example. Their start was entirely like Raj. Now its 50 years and the result?"
very good. like you i too dont see many results. but unlike you i know of a few results. and unlike you i dont choose to see only the negatives. do you even know how many times the "parochial" "non-cosmopolitan" maharashtrians elected the SS to power during those 50 years?... there have been what 8 elections, 9 elections ….. how many times has the SS been brought to power? perhaps you choose to forget that part.. or perhaps you think it is best to conveniently ignore that part.. like the media which chooses to remember only what it wants..
"Shiv Sena is in control of BMC. What is the right thing to do? Fix every problem in Mumbai, not a single pothole, full law and order, top class education for Maharshtrians."
amen. but of course it is the cosmopolitan people of other states who will decide the priority of things to do in mumbai.. right. because they may have grown tired of complaining about their regional parties or their leaders but they never get tired of complaining or giving expert advice to maharashtrian people and organisations.
After all they should know more than Maharashtrian people and leaders. They are in full control of their great states. there are no problems there, not a single pothole (you need roads first, potholes come later), full law and order (UP-Bihar are so good at these that they dont need courts or prisons.. which is why MLAs/ministers from there make use of the empty jail cells as their offices), top class education (which is of such high standard there that they should get natural preference in railway postings in uneducated Mumbai and rest of country)
"What did we get? Mumbai screwed, roads bad, law and order gone, and no jobs. On top of that, they have the reputation of the no. 1 goonda party in India."
> Mumbai screwed..by whom..only the maharashtrians and their parochial leaders..tch tch
"Roads bad"
> as compared to the super smooth national highways in all towns of rest of the country? is that why guys like Manishbhau, Kiran never tire of putting posts of MNCs compete to get road projects here in Mumbai.. while even Indians companies dont want to take up road projects in UP-Bihar...
by the way you might know, if you make the effort to remember and choose not to conveniently ignore, that it was the SS which sanctioned and built the spate of flyovers in Mumbai in their ONE AND ONLY term as elected government of Maharashtra.. almost bankrupting the state in their haste to complete them..
"law and order gone"
> gone where? ..certainly not to UP-Bihar.. they don't need any law there as they are always in order arent they
"reputation of the no. 1 goonda party in India"
> they didnt have to work hard for it did they .. especially considering that the competition was by such non-aggressive parties like the CPI of Bengal and Kerala, the DMK/AIADMK of Tamil Nadu, the Akalis of Punjab, the parties of J&K (is it still an indian state??)
Of course the SP, BSP, RJD, JDU of UP-Bihar dont count as they are full with cultured people who limit their rioting and goondagardi within the assembly halls itself..
"Raj is maintaining that tradition. It will end the same way"
> yes it will. but not because of outside influence or outside pressure.
it will end because the people of maharashtra, the proud maharashtrians, always have and always will put issues of infrastructure, development, employment higher than politics of caste
this is precisely what the SS realized after 50+ years of trying. and the reason why they had to alter their agenda…not because of the outsiders.. but because the people of maharashtra made them to.
Yes, the very same parochial maharashtrians who don’t simply give up or choose to ignore or conveniently forget.. like their cosmopolitan counterparts of UP-Bihar
"Raj can start an agitation saying, freeze development in Mumbai, Mumbai is already overloaded, all new construction should be outside the island city."
If Raj or any other maharashtrian party starts that then i am sure media will project it as 'Raj starts an agitation to freeze development of Mumbai' and you will be on marathikatta trying to explain to us how he is trying to ruin cosmopolitan Mumbai and scaring away rich punjus and UPite by forcing them to put their 5 crores into uneconomical projects.. heads i win, tail you lose kya
boss u are starting with the assumption that anyone who says anything critical is anti maharashtra. maybe u are right. my normal way of thinking, unlike you, is anyone who criticises me, my work, community or region is doing me a favor as only someone whos critical may tell me whats wrong with me. This does not apply to people who are perfect like you, of course.
your statement here shows that you think i am here to criticise raj / other parties / whatever is the case.
boss (to use your own endearing term) keep your cool
everyone feels prickly if unecessarily and overly critisized. be it a Raj, or a Ashtipanjar, or a Sandesh... :-)
hi friends i am doctor,done my post- graduation in gujarat, mr.sandeep for u r kind information i was discriminated on language basis & outsider while doing pg in gujarat.i was really frustrated because of such behaviour by "gujju" teachers,issue raised by rajsaheb is correct.if modi is proud of having gujarati & always talk about gujarat then why mr. raj thakarey donot?.... while all gujju in mumbai doing arrogancy on marathi signboard how could we tolerat?.....only state respect to outsider is maharashtra but time come to change.....most important thing is marathi people follow& respect local culture outside maharashtra but apposite is not true ......