This young came here with intentions to kill our Raj Thackeray,he fired bullets in air,strangulate the conductor for some 15mins.Then also killing such person who has gun with him n anger in his mind was called as encounter,n said police should have arrested him!!
Laloo prasad has requested to prime minister for bann on Shiv Sena n Raj Thackeray,what is the relation of Raj Thackeray with that killing? He fired bullets in air,Was he a innocent and saint kind of person?
All Bihari politician have come together,for this incident n wheres our equality gone ???? Is Raj Thackeray n Balasaheb Thackeray only politician left who has Marathi blood running through veins? Why can other Maharashtrian politician from other party come together,after all its question of our pride!!!
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Laloo prasad has requested to prime minister for bann on Shiv Sena n Raj Thackeray,what is the relation of Raj Thackeray with that killing? He fired bullets in air,Was he a innocent and saint kind of person?
All Bihari politician have come together,for this incident n wheres our equality gone ???? Is Raj Thackeray n Balasaheb Thackeray only politician left who has Marathi blood running through veins? Why can other Maharashtrian politician from other party come together,after all its question of our pride!!!
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Sahil,This is a good point indeed. When we see Laloo,Nitish,Paswan belonging to different parties coming together for a bihari cause, the same open support is not given to Raj Thackeray by marathi politicians.
पोलिसानी केले ते योग्यच होते.'कीप इट अप'.
मला वाटते त्या कन्ड्क्टरचा राश्ट्र्पती(प्रतिभाताई)पुरस्कार देऊन गौरव केला पाहिजे.
Mr.Laloo 15 years you ruled or what say screwed UP and Bihar but unfortunately You, Paswan n Nitesh all TRIO are still with characteristic of a lack of maturity within.
How can you relate Man (Rahul Raj) from UP who came to assassin Mr. Raj with BAN on MNS/ Shiv Sena??????
Why don't you keep the proposal of BANNING your party itself, you know Bihari students hijacked Railway engine burnt Train correct.Railway is the national property or alone UP???? by the way u belong to which party??????never heard about your party name for doing any good cause in Bihar / UP....You belong to same region correct, you might have strong hold in north region..then why no action was taken by local government when people in front of railway police burnt railway, disconnected engine from compartments..You people are always active for any cause happening in Mumbai..why don't you show same activeness in North????Even we want to know what action was taken on those who was involved in burning railways...from whom are you going to cover all the Loss????
Guys. Well done. Keep hating each other. First we had so called muslim terrorists, then came hindu terrorists and now we would soon have regional terrorists. What will afetr this? Taluka based terrorists?
Laloo, Raj tahkeray are all same. They are fighting for "their own people". I wonder who is fighting for India!!
If SIMI can be Banned, if Bajrang Dal should be banned then same applies to MNS also
Yes, if there are problems at taluka level we need to solve that problem at taluka level first and then india. Because thousands of such taluka's makes our India. And if you want it to be stronger each of these taluka's must contribute. Or else what you see is just like india shining advretisements which few pictures of buildings, factories and shopping malls from mumbai and delhi.
If bihar would have taken care of their problems at taluka level we wouldn't see and hear such unfortunate incidents like UP boy beaten up to death.
If you have read karmayog, it talks about taking care of roti, family and society following the strict order. A bad family persom cannot be a good statesman.
Although i understand your point completely, it doesn't give me any direction for alternate solution.
@kiran No. It is even taluka which makes a country. Country is made up of individuals. So If India has to be stronger, an Individual has to contribute. He/she should not theartened by violence , loss of life or property. And today in India, an individual has become the minority because everybody is affliated to some group (religion,region,caste) and doesn't want to look beyond it. Politicans are feeding on us by telling us who we are (bijari, marathi) and pointing out the outsiders. They are diverting us from real issues and are weakening the foundation of country.
Roti kapda, makan and employment are porblem facing 60% of Indians and they are not just in Maharashtra or Bihar. You seem to indicate that Bihar is root cause of employment in Maharashtra which is wrong. Biharis work as construction workers, farm labourers, vegetable vendors and taxi drivers ..all of these are self employments.
Dont get fooled by generalisations which are fed to you by politicians. How are biharis responsible for farmers suicide in Maharashtra?
Okies let us all Maharashtrians resign from our respective jobs and let us go to Bihar, gather all our country brother and sister and bring them here.
Let them take over everything. I hope this will make our friend undercover happy.
FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
"Kavil zalyelyana sagla jagach Pivala diste"
@prashu FOOOOL?? Reverting to personal attack is last resort of those who know that they are wrong.
You make it sound as if some kind of armed attack is being planned on Maharashtra and it is under grave threat.As if Marathi culture would be wiped out and outsiders will rule ..blah blah blah.... Keep imagining. Nothing of that sort is happening.
Dear Undercover,
It was not a personal remark against you. Do not take it personally please. It was about u r thinking which is not accepting the fact that our so called brothers are making our life difficult day by day.
Yesterday's BEST Hijack scene was a audio visual proof that such armed attack is being planned on Maharashtra. And yes we r certainly under such attack.
Call for making Kripashankar next CM is a proof of Outsiders do wanna rule us.
U advice me to imagine those things which according to you will never happen but in real scenario which are happening so I do not require to imagine.
And hence it is time to act.
Meanwhile u keep urself bussy with upliftment of Bihari's in Maharashtra. any ways Maharashtra dose not need u.
Dear, If we keep imaginging then
Dear @prashu,
About BEST hijack, dont you see how sad the whole episode is?? You know why many muslims became terrorists? You know what was SIMI? please read bit about them. Muslims were cornered for long time by BJP which told hindus that Muslims are with pakistan, they kill hindus and what not... It alienated muslims and even ordinary middle class muslim felt insulted. That is the reason we are seeing homegrown muslim terror.
Something similar could happen in Marathi-bihari situation.
BEST case is an example that an ordinary, middle class man was so agitated that he had to do that foolish and criminal act. This is how terrorists are made, my dear. By hate and divise politics. Your linking this incident to a larger armed attack on Maharashtra is so funny that it made me laugh. I think you have a good sense of humour.
BTW,
Dear Undercover,
Muslim Terrorism was in exists even before BJP was born. If you have decided not to look at the will of north indian politicians to rule Maharashtra and ignoring such attacks then I can't help. But thank god there are other awake Maharashtrians who are watching the current scenarion in correct light.
That chap ( I will call him Bihari Terrorist) would have agitated in his own state against those fellows(Laloo/Nitish/Paswan) for poor economical state of Bhihar instead of comming here and spreading threat.
And yes, your complement on my sense of humour are unwanted as they do not hold anything.
@prashu
Really! Muslism terrorism existed Before BJP was born! When was RSS formed? Do you know BJP is a political offshoot of RSS. Do you know that The man who killed Gandhi was in RSS?? Did we have muslim youth bombing in 80s or 90s? Was IM or SIMI born before BJP and its babari masjid demolition?
If you want to call that youth a bihari terrorist, I would say MNS and Raj thakeray are marathi terrorists. Lalo and mayawati might not have done anything for thier state but they didnt go out and start beating pepole on street.
correct. Nathuram godse killed gandhi, he was in rss then formed by veer savarkar (also a marathi). But they did it for a cause, against the process of partition which was initiated by jinah and his islamic movement front. But that goes deep and has both sides.
I just want to know how correct it would be to just blame marathi's or hindu's or muslims or any particular religion for terrorism. I don't understand why undercover is pushing just one side of it. ... but i will still rest my case.
Dear Undercover,
Sure RSS exists for last more than 75 years, but islamic extremism exist before many century back. Aurangzeb/Afzal khan who have looted hindu temples is a proof of that. SIMI and other extremist is a new version of that old "kill all those do not belive in OUR god" kinnda of philosophy. I guess this was the reason why our own Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj created a SWARAJYA.
I do not surprise if you start blemming him also. Call MNS and RAJ anything what u want. We are not bother.
And still you are not agree with Laloo and Mayawati have not done any good for their respective states because you are using "might not have done" kindda of language. Better u agree will be better for u only.
@prashu
There is little pion in arguin with you as your knowledge of history seems limited to watching TV, so I ignore your comments on islamic terrorism. What happened in medieveal time or in times of empires wasn't what we are witnessing now. I speak of India which is today not which was nothing but collection of 500 kingdoms who were fighting with each other constantly.
That laloo and Mayawati have done notrhing for thier respective states is a general knowledge in this country , so why should I repeat it. All I know is that I see MNS and thier brand of politics a sad chapter in Maharashtra. Argument that Bihar and UP are badlands so Maharshtra should also become one is utterly childish.
Dear Undercover,
Since you were never upto the point in above discussion and always kept messing up here and there I guess only MNS bashing & bihar supporting was only your point which we have argued a lot. And hence you don't wanna argue more. Okies your choice.
STOP judging people and cheap commenting about their knowledge as they are having their own views and having facts to support it. What the hell u know about my knowledge of history? Even history scholars are having differences of opinion between themselves for all major historical issues. What do u think, People can not have their own views which have been derived from their own thinking just beacuse it is not matching your view? Just talking about someone's knowledge is good way to bypass the core issue.
Glad at last u have admitted contribution of Lalu/Mayawati. And nobody cares about u r sadness as majority is happy that at least there is some one who is raising against all odds.
one last point, Nobody is arguementing that Maharashtra should go to that level of UP & Bihar but our fight is to save Maharashtra from becoming next UP/Bihar.
@prashu
For you kind information, Modern day History is pretty much documented and based on facts . Views and opinions are folklore and not history. I can judge you knowledge of history from your arguments. I suggest you read a bit of Mumbai's history first. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mumbai
BTW, you might beocme a majority in Maharashtra, but in India, you will become a minority. What about those 3 crore Marathi manoos who live outside Maharashtra.
If you really want to save Maharshtra, save it for goondagardi like MNS and Shiv sena. BIhar and UP are in bad state becuase anybody can take law in their own hands. That is what MNS people do by burning buses, ransacking shops and burning autos.
@rajuklkrn
I agree with you. In Assam , illlegal migration form Bangladesh has creatted havoc to its demograhic profile and nobody is even looking into the problem.
ISI might have handholded scored of outfits in India to weaken India. But that was in 90s. Now entire world knows that we dont need ISI or external enemies.
We can now create our own wars among us. Bihari/Marathis. Tamil/Kanigads North/South. ISA can take a break
Some thoughts on Raj as a marathi manoos.
Raj Thackeray is touching the marathi people's heart because of the total collapse of system in Mumbai. What the marathis should not do is turn this into an ego issue against the nation and against biharis as fellow human beings and Indians which is where it is wrong.
I will here like to bring to the fore the case of ULFA in Assam. ULFA in its heydays was an hindu outfit driving out Bangladeshi Muslims from Assam. Through clever intelligent tactics ISI turned ULFA against the biharis. The result was that ULFA has been mowing down biharis while now becoming mute on the demographic changes happening through bangladesh.
Coming to Maharashtra the leaders in background who are fuming this anger are people like Abu Azmi, Majid memon and the strategy is the same. Marathas are proud Indians but over a period of time what happened in Assam is trying to be imitated here.
Also I respect leaders like Nitish in Bihar. They should try to develo Bihar so that the root problem of high immigration can come to an end. The anger of local mumbaikars is not on immigration. It is break down of a city from a beautiful place into a slum city.
I am sure Raj is not doing the correct thing but who cares. He will also not do anything for Mumbai or Maharashtra but remember rabid leaders do win. He is taking a leaf out of Modi but he is not hesitating to use it against fellow Hindus as well. The attention from Bangladeshis has now turned to north Indians. My only question is ''Is Raj a hero because of some progressive work or because of what he is doing now''?
U did missed one thing that four year back 4 bihari workes were burned in Asam by Ulfa.
Raj is not doing that If lalu fairly take exams then Raj will not be able to do anything. Right?
But there is a whole crux.
And about Raj's contribution that Time will tell But one thing sure I will like Raj to lead Maharashtra than Lalu/Mulayam and etc etc.....
Dear Undercover,
See again u messed up. We were talking about islamic extremist history. And how modern day history come into picture?
Boss history was always a topic for fightings. Some view it from Communist view and some from left and other from right.
So better not talk about historical knowledge of anyone. One such book written by Nehru have shown Shivaji Maharaj in bad light on which he himself regretted later.
We are fighting for not becoming minority in Maharashtra itself and why MNS doing in that way? I have already answered this in your bihari way "Latoon ke bhoot batoon se nahi mante".............
@prashu History has enough of objective facts if you care to read them. There is enough of history on Shivaji Like all of us he was a man, a great man indeed a a great warrior. But he was not God and he had many faults like humans have.
In India we have a habit of turn ing great men into Gods and then we dont let anybody comment on them so poor Nehru had to backtrack.
I think in all likelihood you wont understand what I am saying..but consider this till now students all across India read About Shivaji Maharaj as a great indian warrior , now onwards they should be told that he was a marathi.
That is what politics of MNS is. MNS never solve real issue and just let you run emotionally mad. BTW, may be you have not seen Shoba De's interview on TV and she is a very marathi. That is what she said:
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Karan Thapar: They (maharshtrians)are too laid back?
Shobhaa De: They are too laid back and also there’s a certain intellectual arrogance which means Maharashtrians will not do the kind of jobs like dhobis (washermen), darbans (attendants), bhel-puri waala (street-food shop owner), taxi driver – which they consider, may be, a little demeaning and beneath themselves. But there are articulate, intelligent, educated Maharashtrians who are also not getting a shot at jobs. I can really understand their peeve too.
Karan Thapar: You are saying that because they are laid back and perhaps a little indignant in their attitude and also because – as you said – they are arrogant and won’t do certain jobs they consider demeaning – for both those reason they are losing out in their capital to people who come from elsewhere.
Shobhaa De: Definitely. And they are not as hungry and as aggressive in moving out of their Capital or their state.
Karan Thapar: So they lack a certain ambition as well?
Shobhaa De: It’s the lack of that killer instinct. They can go to Bihar and look for jobs, they can go to Punjab or West Bengal to look for jobs. Why do farmers in Maharashtra starve and not farmers in other states?
Fact is that Maharastrians are very lazy, then cannot do labor to crack Competitive exams, since they do not have ability to get thru the competitive exams so they r blaming the system for malpractice. Lets agree once to the fact that railway exam are not taken to its right spirit( lets say becoz of lalu) what more & more % of Biharis are getting gthru in IIT, IAS(Civil services), are they all controlled by lalu. Go & look the result of ONGC, NTPC, HPCL or any kinda such competitive exams, Biharis are fas ahead to marathis. Marathis people cannt digest this fact. U have all resources at ur hand, all good coaching centrs are in mumbai, why aren't u doing hard enough to get thru such comptt exams. Grow up man. I am not hereby underestimating Marathis ( or who am i to underestimate anybody or community or etc). another fact comes here is sine Biharis don't have anything to feed themselves other than those govt jobs. so they strive enough to get into on the other hand Mumbaikar have enough to remain in their state(ot they r lazy enough to go out side the state) . those mahastrian are out side the state r not crying like our these brothers.
& let me tell one thing very clearly here Mumbai is not built by RAj or Sena, there is a demographic advantage with mumbai. It is coastal area so English found it convenient to use it in every sense, & that's why it is mumbai. U tell me my brother what MNS or sena did for betterment of mumbai.
Kolkata Chennai, Ahmedabad all these are big city bcoz of their demographic advances not bcoz of their local parties. New Delhi is an exception u can say, but let me tell u Mughals had built Delhi.
No political party did anything for their state. Punjab is Punjab bcoz of their own labor not bcoz of any political party. so Finally it is individual who makes the country & not party.
policani kale te barobar ahe.jar rahul chya golibarat policana kahi zale aste tar apanach ulti bombabom keli asti.
policani ha donhi kadun mar ka khayacha.