After days of pressure on the state government to rein in Raj Thackeray, the Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS) chief was arrested at Ratnagiri at 3 am today for Sunday's brutal attack on North Indian rail exam candidates by MNS workers.
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written by asthipanjar 79 days ago
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Apart from the issues -- whats the point of violence when Raj is arrested? A court ordered his arrest, and then there is no option for the police other than to arrest him. If a Maharashtrian court orders Laloo's arrest, he would be arrested too.
He will be arrested, and he will be released. This is India, you think any politician will stay inside for long? Arrests are just a legal and political (!!) requirement - Raj has been arrested once before, this is the second, so it is just like passing second standard exam in school. Long way to go.
As far as the issues are concerned, when the problems of Maharashtrians are explained to non-Maharashtrians, they always agree in my experience. Maybe they wont agree about the cultural issues - but they always agree that yes, Maharashtrians are in a bad shape economically, and that has to be changed.
What is required is a plan. Beating up a few people is not a plan.
If that would be successful, terrorists' bombs would be even more successful!
It just helps people feel a bit macho. There is no point to it.
Also, whats the point of saying Maharasthra will burn?!! Say Bihar will burn, or I will make UP burn :-D
written by helo 79 days ago
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But beating this few UP biharies student will make any change in mumbai....This fight is going on since past many years that UP biharies should stop coming to mumbai.... Are they really stopping migration up to certain extent ?? Or just we all Marathi's are shouting and beating unnecessary...
written by tbankar 79 days ago
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Hi folks,
I agree with you that beating few UP / Biharis is not going to bring the change. But lets look at other side. Laloo came to Mumbai some days before and they were approached by MNS with a request letter to consider the locals when recruitment is done in railways and laloo refused to accept the letter!!!
Do you think that a national leader should behave in this manner which is definitely in bad taste?? Atleast he would have accepted the letter and shown some courtesy (Mind it, It was a request letter and not a forced order).
Now other point what would you do when you catch a thief, obviously you'll beat up them, then I would say same has happened to the ones who have tried to steal our jobs. Why was there no advertisement regarding the recruitment in other states and only in UP/Bihar/West Bengal is this not a so called "PRANT-WAD"??
The eligibility for the recruitment was 50% or above at SSC level, don't we have talent at even these levels??
Now do you think that if MNS had approached to Railway Board in delhi and marked their protest there would have been some concrete results as all the north ppl consider Raj as only a Goonda ??
I would support Raj as this was the only way to mark the protest when other alternative of nonvoilence failed.
Regards
Trimbak.
written by asthipanjar 79 days ago
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Trimbak,
I agree with all that. But there is a simpler way which maintains our dignity. You just have to stop the exam. Gherao. Dont allow the exam to happen. It is a standard method of protest and it works. Beating up is unnecessary.
Laloo's behaviour is irresponsible and impolite for sure.
Or block trains. Not beat the travellers :D But block trains for a day. Railways will surely notice that!
written by helo 79 days ago
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Raj Thackeray wife said In her first reaction to media, Sharmila Thackeray, wife of Raj Thackeray, said that it was a shame that the Maharashtra government has arrested her husband for speaking for the rights of Marathi people of the state.
In a sms to some mediapersons, Sharmila wrote, "Shame, Shame, Shame."
written by alniks 79 days ago
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Hi
I agree with Asthipanjar. There is no doubt that Raj has taken up the issue which was there in minds of most of the Maharashtrian people. But the problem is repercussions which have to be faced by Maharashtrian people living in other parts of the country. Moreover this kind of sporadic beatings is not going to deter these shameless Biharis and UPaites. I think Raj should change his strategy and fight this cause in a more organized and legal way.
written by helo 79 days ago
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For exapmle .. ? alniks
written by helo 79 days ago
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MNS has their site also ....I think we should post some of this suggestion like what asthipanjar has given should be posted on his site also.
written by asthipanjar 79 days ago
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One bihari student has died.
written by helo 79 days ago
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Now I think its going to be a serious matter...
But what Jaya bacchan is doing now... Any reaction ... ?
written by tbankar 79 days ago
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written by kiran 79 days ago
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राज ठाकरे यांचि अटक हे जर राजकिय नाटक असेल तर ते राज्य सरकार आणि राजसाहेबानी लवकर थांबवावे, कारण मुबंईत तनाव वाढत आहे. आणि त्यात मराठी आणि अमराठी मुबंईकराचच नुकसान होतय.
पण जर ही अटक खरी असेल तर हि दुख:द बाब आहे, ह्याला सगळ्याच मुबंईकराचा निषेध राहील. राज ठाकरे यांचे प्रश्न आणि मुद्दे नक्किच योग्य आहेत. त्यांच्या "राडा" टेक्निकशी सगळेच सहमत होनार नाहीत कारण त्या योग्य व कायद्यात बसणा-या नाहित. पण मग त्यांनी विचारलेले प्रश्नांची उत्तर कायदेशीर नाकारली जातात, हे कदाचीत कायद्यात बसणारे असेल पण योग्य आहे का ?
raj thakr is a mental man, or woh sabko badnam kar raha hai, pure Maharashtra ko North Indian par hamla karwayega to god bhi use saja denge woh dog ka maut marega, usko 20 years ke liye jail hona chahiye
written by Sapana2612 77 days ago
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I've heard that 1 pregnant lady also died...In That "Halla Of MNS". Is that true???....My friend saw this news on some news chanel.
written by helo 77 days ago
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Just ask your friend on which news channel he saw.
Even I want to know now.
written by funaholic 77 days ago
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What helo any channel accept star maja.Name doesnot matter.
Ata Ya media valyanchya Van ani patrakarana Fodtil nahi tar kay.Kay pan khapavtat MNS chya nava var.
Ata don divast je koni Dhagat gele astil na Te sagle MNS mulech gelet.
written by helo 77 days ago
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ha haha.. Thats the good one
But I dont understand one thing that how come only pregnant women died..... ? why there were no other ladies on the road...
and why she has to come out of her home during such "Halla Of MNS"=as Sapana2612 said ???
written by lax7221 77 days ago
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Any body has idea where pavan(rly exam student) died?
written by funaholic 77 days ago
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written by lax7221 77 days ago
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Actual link is not live
written by god 77 days ago
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Yes, I guess rediff has removed the link now. They have become like aaj tak and star news now.
written by prashu 77 days ago
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guys I watched it yesterday on Zee 24 tas, they clearly shown andheri railway police station record saying that guy was killed in railway-accident and not by MNS. So this is showing cheap and dirty mentality of all anti-maharashtrians.
written by helo 77 days ago
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and prashu is right. And the boy's centre was at bhyandar
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Apart from the issues -- whats the point of violence when Raj is arrested? A court ordered his arrest, and then there is no option for the police other than to arrest him. If a Maharashtrian court orders Laloo's arrest, he would be arrested too.
He will be arrested, and he will be released. This is India, you think any politician will stay inside for long? Arrests are just a legal and political (!!) requirement - Raj has been arrested once before, this is the second, so it is just like passing second standard exam in school. Long way to go.
As far as the issues are concerned, when the problems of Maharashtrians are explained to non-Maharashtrians, they always agree in my experience. Maybe they wont agree about the cultural issues - but they always agree that yes, Maharashtrians are in a bad shape economically, and that has to be changed.
What is required is a plan. Beating up a few people is not a plan.
If that would be successful, terrorists' bombs would be even more successful!
It just helps people feel a bit macho. There is no point to it.
Also, whats the point of saying Maharasthra will burn?!! Say Bihar will burn, or I will make UP burn :-D
But beating this few UP biharies student will make any change in mumbai....This fight is going on since past many years that UP biharies should stop coming to mumbai.... Are they really stopping migration up to certain extent ?? Or just we all Marathi's are shouting and beating unnecessary...
Hi folks,
I agree with you that beating few UP / Biharis is not going to bring the change. But lets look at other side. Laloo came to Mumbai some days before and they were approached by MNS with a request letter to consider the locals when recruitment is done in railways and laloo refused to accept the letter!!!
Do you think that a national leader should behave in this manner which is definitely in bad taste?? Atleast he would have accepted the letter and shown some courtesy (Mind it, It was a request letter and not a forced order).
Now other point what would you do when you catch a thief, obviously you'll beat up them, then I would say same has happened to the ones who have tried to steal our jobs. Why was there no advertisement regarding the recruitment in other states and only in UP/Bihar/West Bengal is this not a so called "PRANT-WAD"??
The eligibility for the recruitment was 50% or above at SSC level, don't we have talent at even these levels??
Now do you think that if MNS had approached to Railway Board in delhi and marked their protest there would have been some concrete results as all the north ppl consider Raj as only a Goonda ??
I would support Raj as this was the only way to mark the protest when other alternative of nonvoilence failed.
Regards
Trimbak.
Trimbak,
I agree with all that. But there is a simpler way which maintains our dignity. You just have to stop the exam. Gherao. Dont allow the exam to happen. It is a standard method of protest and it works. Beating up is unnecessary.
Laloo's behaviour is irresponsible and impolite for sure.
Or block trains. Not beat the travellers :D But block trains for a day. Railways will surely notice that!
Raj Thackeray wife said In her first reaction to media, Sharmila Thackeray, wife of Raj Thackeray, said that it was a shame that the Maharashtra government has arrested her husband for speaking for the rights of Marathi people of the state.
In a sms to some mediapersons, Sharmila wrote, "Shame, Shame, Shame."
Read More ... http://www.mynews.in/fullstory.aspx?storyid=11690
Hi
I agree with Asthipanjar. There is no doubt that Raj has taken up the issue which was there in minds of most of the Maharashtrian people. But the problem is repercussions which have to be faced by Maharashtrian people living in other parts of the country. Moreover this kind of sporadic beatings is not going to deter these shameless Biharis and UPaites. I think Raj should change his strategy and fight this cause in a more organized and legal way.
For exapmle .. ? alniks
MNS has their site also ....I think we should post some of this suggestion like what asthipanjar has given should be posted on his site also.
One bihari student has died.
Now I think its going to be a serious matter...
But what Jaya bacchan is doing now... Any reaction ... ?
Why not read the original news here???
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOI&BaseHref=TOIM/2008/10/21&PageLabel=3&EntityId=Ar00300&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T
Government responsible for Maharashtra crisis: Shiv Sena
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Maha_govt_to_blame_for_crisis_Sena/articleshow/3622130.cms
राज ठाकरे यांचि अटक हे जर राजकिय नाटक असेल तर ते राज्य सरकार आणि राजसाहेबानी लवकर थांबवावे, कारण मुबंईत तनाव वाढत आहे. आणि त्यात मराठी आणि अमराठी मुबंईकराचच नुकसान होतय.
पण जर ही अटक खरी असेल तर हि दुख:द बाब आहे, ह्याला सगळ्याच मुबंईकराचा निषेध राहील. राज ठाकरे यांचे प्रश्न आणि मुद्दे नक्किच योग्य आहेत. त्यांच्या "राडा" टेक्निकशी सगळेच सहमत होनार नाहीत कारण त्या योग्य व कायद्यात बसणा-या नाहित. पण मग त्यांनी विचारलेले प्रश्नांची उत्तर कायदेशीर नाकारली जातात, हे कदाचीत कायद्यात बसणारे असेल पण योग्य आहे का ?
I've heard that 1 pregnant lady also died...In That "Halla Of MNS". Is that true???....My friend saw this news on some news chanel.
Just ask your friend on which news channel he saw.
Even I want to know now.
What helo any channel accept star maja.Name doesnot matter.
Ata Ya media valyanchya Van ani patrakarana Fodtil nahi tar kay.Kay pan khapavtat MNS chya nava var.
Ata don divast je koni Dhagat gele astil na Te sagle MNS mulech gelet.
ha haha.. Thats the good one
But I dont understand one thing that how come only pregnant women died..... ? why there were no other ladies on the road...
and why she has to come out of her home during such "Halla Of MNS"=as Sapana2612 said ???
Any body has idea where pavan(rly exam student) died?
@lax7221 read this article
http://www.marathikatta.com/Politics/bihar-student-dies-after-mns-thrashing-a-hoax-from-a-reputed-site/
Actual link is not live
Yes, I guess rediff has removed the link now. They have become like aaj tak and star news now.
guys I watched it yesterday on Zee 24 tas, they clearly shown andheri railway police station record saying that guy was killed in railway-accident and not by MNS. So this is showing cheap and dirty mentality of all anti-maharashtrians.
and prashu is right. And the boy's centre was at bhyandar