Tommorow is our 60th Independence Day, Again .. channels packed with Vande Mataram songs, Flags everywhere and anywhere, Newspapers full picture and content attempting patriotism trick on us and a dry public holiday.
Close your eyes and try being free for a 30 seconds (Its slightly difficult rather misguiding picture with eyes open) what do you see ?
written by Chetan 465 days ago
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In the near future Independence Day will have no other significance except a public holiday, when youngsters can party hard, Elders can booze and children will picnic.
And still worst people will completely forget the true meaning of being independent.
Today the meanings of word Independence and Freedom have been so well twisted to mean just Financial Independence and No justification the way one wishes to pleasure himself even at the moral/economic exploitation of his fellow countrymen.
I dont believe we are truly free, 60 years early we were forced to live life according to the wish of our British masters, and today we have voluntarily excepted mental slavery by choosing to live our lifestyles by imitating our New American Masters.
written by kiran 465 days ago
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Haha not bad, British Masters and American Masters.
Its a nice tickle to brain deciding preferable between two of these.
written by manishbhau 465 days ago
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So it's 60 years is it... time to retire it now.
Don't forget the past but always look into the future :-)
As the top indutralists and Times of India says lets have a new motto for I-day - "Domination Day"
Lets measure and review our countries progress on 15th August every year. Lets work everyday to help India on the steps to being the superpower the world expects us to be !
As citizens of India's premier city, We Mumbaikars are expected to lead the way! So look forward mates and ...CHARGE
written by manishbhau 465 days ago
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Long years ago we made a tryst with destiny, and now the time comes when we shall redeem our pledge, not wholly or in full measure, but very substantially. At the stroke of the midnight hour, when the world sleeps, India will awake to life and freedom. A moment comes, which comes but rarely in history, when we step out from the old to the new, when an age ends, and when the soul of a nation, long suppressed, finds utterance. It is fitting that at this solemn moment we take the pledge of dedication to the service of India and her people and to the still larger cause of humanity.
At the dawn of history India started on her unending quest, and trackless centuries are filled with her striving and the grandeur of her success and her failures. Through good and ill fortune alike she has never lost sight of that quest or forgotten the ideals which gave her strength. We end today a period of ill fortune and India discovers herself again. The achievement we celebrate today is but a step, an opening of opportunity, to the greater triumphs and achievements that await us. Are we brave enough and wise enough to grasp this opportunity and accept the challenge of the future?
Freedom and power bring responsibility. The responsibility rests upon this Assembly, a sovereign body representing the sovereign people of India. Before the birth of freedom we have endured all the pains of labour and our hearts are heavy with the memory of this sorrow. Some of those pains continue even now. Nevertheless, the past is over and it is the future that beckons to us now.
That future is not one of ease or resting but of incessant striving so that we may fulfil the pledges we have so often taken and the one we shall take today. The service of India means the service of the millions who suffer. It means the ending of poverty and ignorance and disease and inequality of opportunity. The ambition of the greatest man of our generation has been to wipe every tear from every eye. That may be beyond us, but as long as there are tears and suffering, so long our work will not be over.
And so we have to labour and to work, and work hard, to give reality to our dreams. Those dreams are for India, but they are also for the world, for all the nations and peoples are too closely knit together today for any one of them to imagine that it can live apart Peace has been said to be indivisible; so is freedom, so is prosperity now, and so also is disaster in this One World that can no longer be split into isolated fragments.
To the people of India, whose representatives we are, we make an appeal to join us with faith and confidence in this great adventure. This is no time for petty and destructive criticism, no time for ill-will or blaming others.
We have to build the noble mansion of free India where all her children may dwell. The appointed day has come-the day appointed by destiny-and India stands forth again, after long slumber and struggle, awake, vital, free and independent. The past clings on to us still in some measure and we have to do much before we redeem the pledges we have so often taken. Yet the turning-point is past, and history begins anew for us, the history which we shall live and act and others will write about.
It is a fateful moment for us in India, for all Asia and for the world. A new star rises, the star of freedom in the East, a new hope comes into being, a vision long cherished materializes. May the star never set and that hope never be betrayed! We rejoice in that freedom, even though clouds surround us, and many of our people are sorrowstricken and difficult problems encompass us. But freedom brings responsibilities and burdens and we have to face them in the spirit of a free and disciplined people.
On this day our first thoughts go to the architect of this freedom, the Father of our Nation [Gandhi], who, embodying the old spirit of India, held aloft the torch of freedom and lighted up the darkness that surrounded us. We have often been unworthy followers of his and have strayed from his message, but not only we but succeeding generations will remember this message and bear the imprint in their hearts of this great son of India, magnificent in his faith and strength and courage and humility. We shall never allow that torch of freedom to be blown out, however high the wind or stormy the tempest.
Our next thoughts must be of the unknown volunteers and soldiers of freedom who, without praise or reward, have served India even unto death. We think also of our brothers and sisters who have been cut off from us by political boundaries and who unhappily cannot share at present in the freedom that has come. They are of us and will remain of us whatever may happen, and we shall be sharers in their good [or] ill fortune alike.
The future beckons to us. Whither do we go and what shall be our endeavour? To bring freedom and opportunity to the common man, to the peasants and workers of India; to fight and end poverty and ignorance and disease; to build up a prosperous, democratic and progressive nation, and to create social, economic and political institutions which will ensure justice and fullness of life to every man and woman.
We have hard work ahead. There is no resting for any one of us till we redeem our pledge in full, till we make all the people of India what destiny intended them to be. We are citizens of a great country on the verge of bold advance, and we have to live up to that high standard. All of us, to whatever religion we may belong, are equally the children of India with equal rights, privileges and obligations. We cannot encourage communalism or narrow-mindedness, for no nation can be great whose people are narrow in thought or in action.
To the nations and peoples of the world we send greetings and pledge ourselves to cooperate with them in furthering peace, freedom and democracy. And to India, our much-loved motherland, the ancient, the eternal and the ever-new, we pay our reverent homage and we bind ourselves afresh to her service. Jai Hind.
Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru - Midnight, 14th August 1947
written by kiran 465 days ago
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These points are taken from speech given by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru on midnight of Independence.
To bring freedom and opportunity to the common man,
To fight and end poverty and ignorance and disease;
To build up a prosperous, democratic and progressive nation,
To create social, economic and political institutions which will ensure justice and fullness of life to every man and woman.
Now after 60 years, we still ask this questions, Contexts are not very different. On the other hand India Inc is no doubt a front runner in developing countries, then where is the problem.
written by manishbhau 465 days ago
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Problem is we Indians are satified with small victories and resigned after small defeats.
We fail to look at the bigger picture. We are more happier being ranked 5th in the cricket ratings rather than 50th in the soccer ratings. So what if barely 15 odd countries play cricket while 200 countries play soccer.
Each and every Indian between age 8 and 80 has an opinion about the failings of Sachin Tendulkar but have failed to produce a similar player in the past 10 years.
There is hope however. With more and more exposure to the world Indians are now being more aggressive and assertive.
Consider the just concluded India-England series. Usually our team loses the first match and then struggles to somehow draw the next one and tries to win the last one.
In this series we narrowly saved the 1st match, played to win the 2nd match and dominated the 3rd one. There was a big chance that we could have won the third one if we had been more positive and aggressive in approach. That is what the entire nation felt.
This is what gives us hope. That we are no longer content with the 'Chalta hai' attitude of the past. Our attitude now is more of 'Mangta hai' !
ASK THE PEOPLE OF KASHMIR WHATS THE MEANING OF FREEDOM THEY WILL TELL U.
written by kiran 465 days ago
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What you think what will they tell me.
I will rather ask farmers from vidarbha .. they will tell me SUICIDE is freedom, freedom from all the problems and never ending loans.
Or i will ask to oldies in konkan, they will tell me working in mumbai is freedom from unattended dyeing villages in konkan.
Generation X mumbaikars will tell me shopping malls and buffet lunch is a freedom .. freedom to choose .. blah blah.
I don't know what you will call freedom.
Kashmir is definately a issue but not the only issue .. atleast its not the issue i can do something about.
written by manishbhau 465 days ago
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There could be other issues which you, and each of us, could and want to do something about.
"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country" - John F Kennedy
Our ex-president A P J Abdul Kalam counts JFK as amongst one of his inspirations and so i mentioned this quote.
Abdul Kalam released his vision of India 2020.
Inspired by him a group of Indian professionals have got together and started an organisation 'DreamIndia 2020'.
Check it out at www.dreamindia.org
I think each of us might find something worthwhile to do, with some such organisation, even while we debate and discuss issues at marathikatta.
written by manishbhau 465 days ago
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Hey Pavwala what does freedom mean to you Buddy ? Are you free ? If not then what sort of freedom are you looking out for ..if you are looking out for freedom?
"Man is free only at the moment of his birth and at the moment of his death. In the time between he is in chains " - Jean-Jacques Rousseau, French philosopher whose ideas led to the French Revolution.
Sorry Friends, I have drunk in advance today. Tomorrow is dry day ;-)
written by punchtantra 465 days ago
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If "sunita williams" wouldve been in India no one wouldve heard of "sunita williams" so we have to thank USA for that.
Manu Sharma we have to thank the media cause the court set him free :)
kabaddi - some day we will will be 2nd best in this game
Helping the neeedy in 26/7 -- not possible
written by manishbhau 465 days ago
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Freedom is not being scared to disagree. :-)
written by funaholic 465 days ago
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I agree with punchtantra
We all here on katta are born in Independent India. How would we possible know the pain of being slave of some other country.
We don't see any more boards out of movie theaters ,
Restaurants and other public places saying "Dogs And Indians Are Not Allowed".
Nobody would dare spit on our faces saying "You Bloody Indian" etc.
I agree for us its still long way to go.But for today lets celebrate Independence Day as its given us right to have our own MarathiKatta and give dozens of gali to BMC,trains,etc. :-) everyday.Otherwise Pavwala would have become Shahid-e-Pavwala By now ;-)just kidding
Hum Honge Kamiyab Ek Din HoHo Man Hai Vishwas Poora Hai Vishwas.Happy Independence Day To all kattaKarris.
written by limin 465 days ago
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Freedom means comfort. If you don't feel comfortable in your own country then u r not free.
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When the nation is unstable, people start talking about "patriotism." -- Lao Tzu
written by lostwanderer 464 days ago
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If we try to read Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru's speach above, one would realize that the dreams that our Leaders/ Freedom Fighters fought for is probably the kind of india that we are seeing today. But not in the way that they intended it to be.
We were just the driving force to the carriage of the British raj, who manuvered us. But our Leaders/ Freedom Fighters wanted us to be able to go in our own direction. They knew that we had lost a lot of time and resources, while the rest of the world was way ahead from us. The speech shows the immense enthusiasm that our leaders had, to catch up for the lost time.
There is a line in the speech which says "Freedom and power bring responsibility". I do not think most of us would know to use our freedom with responsibility. And everyone is to be blamed for it, not just the politicians .... after all we are the ones who choose them to be where they are today.
Our unity during the freedom struggle, was the key to our freedom. Our Leaders wanted all of India to be together .... always, because they knew, that the same unity would be the driving force behind our success. Maybe, we have achieved alot but we've lost the unity that we once had.
Our Leaders had dreamt of an India which would be free of poverty, ignorance, disease and inequality of opportunity. But, I think for whose ever personal interest, all these things were kept as is and played with. People knew that they could get what they wanted if they could take advantage of all these shortcomings that our country had.
Today, a lot of our villages are still living in the year 1947. No electricity, no roads, poverty, illiteracy and ofcourse inequality. And Yes, we are speaking about the country whose large chunk of income comes from providing technology to other countries. What a contrast?
Today, when I close my eyes, I feel like a free bird. A bird who is flying in a sky which is filled with other birds who are flying in no specific formation. Some just want to knock you down because your in their way. But atleast we have a sky of our own to fly .... thanks to your freedom fighters.
written by kiran 464 days ago
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This is brilliant stuff by lostwanderer. I am sure he is really lost and wandering.
Most of the time Freedom for me is waking up on sunday afternoon to take a bath and eat. And then sleep again to wake up just before the evening to watch movie on zee mgm.
Its monday which makes me think about freedom.
written by punchtantra 463 days ago
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Yea mate.Its like air and saturdays.. we dont notice it..unless it is not there.
written by limin 463 days ago
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Lostwanderer we haven't met since long. when can we meet?
written by lostwanderer 463 days ago
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Whenever you say, just gimme a call.
written by kiran 463 days ago
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Big news .. sanvekar joined katta.
Till today he was just watching, today he manage to move his long fingures to actually regiser.
He need no introduction, he would have been more famous if he would have stayed in san francisco or holland.
written by lostwanderer 463 days ago
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Welcome!! long fingered sanvekar!!! LOL!!
written by limin 463 days ago
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Great news Kiran.... sanvekar, pls scan ur hand & post it on KATTA so that evryone will know how big palm u have. Welcome Onion Eater ;)
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In the near future Independence Day will have no other significance except a public holiday, when youngsters can party hard, Elders can booze and children will picnic.
And still worst people will completely forget the true meaning of being independent.
Today the meanings of word Independence and Freedom have been so well twisted to mean just Financial Independence and No justification the way one wishes to pleasure himself even at the moral/economic exploitation of his fellow countrymen.
I dont believe we are truly free, 60 years early we were forced to live life according to the wish of our British masters, and today we have voluntarily excepted mental slavery by choosing to live our lifestyles by imitating our New American Masters.
Haha not bad, British Masters and American Masters.
Its a nice tickle to brain deciding preferable between two of these.
So it's 60 years is it... time to retire it now.
Don't forget the past but always look into the future :-)
As the top indutralists and Times of India says lets have a new motto for I-day - "Domination Day"
Lets measure and review our countries progress on 15th August every year. Lets work everyday to help India on the steps to being the superpower the world expects us to be !
As citizens of India's premier city, We Mumbaikars are expected to lead the way! So look forward mates and ...CHARGE
Long years ago we made a tryst with destiny, and now the time comes when we shall redeem our pledge, not wholly or in full measure, but very substantially. At the stroke of the midnight hour, when the world sleeps, India will awake to life and freedom. A moment comes, which comes but rarely in history, when we step out from the old to the new, when an age ends, and when the soul of a nation, long suppressed, finds utterance. It is fitting that at this solemn moment we take the pledge of dedication to the service of India and her people and to the still larger cause of humanity.
At the dawn of history India started on her unending quest, and trackless centuries are filled with her striving and the grandeur of her success and her failures. Through good and ill fortune alike she has never lost sight of that quest or forgotten the ideals which gave her strength. We end today a period of ill fortune and India discovers herself again. The achievement we celebrate today is but a step, an opening of opportunity, to the greater triumphs and achievements that await us. Are we brave enough and wise enough to grasp this opportunity and accept the challenge of the future?
Freedom and power bring responsibility. The responsibility rests upon this Assembly, a sovereign body representing the sovereign people of India. Before the birth of freedom we have endured all the pains of labour and our hearts are heavy with the memory of this sorrow. Some of those pains continue even now. Nevertheless, the past is over and it is the future that beckons to us now.
That future is not one of ease or resting but of incessant striving so that we may fulfil the pledges we have so often taken and the one we shall take today. The service of India means the service of the millions who suffer. It means the ending of poverty and ignorance and disease and inequality of opportunity. The ambition of the greatest man of our generation has been to wipe every tear from every eye. That may be beyond us, but as long as there are tears and suffering, so long our work will not be over.
And so we have to labour and to work, and work hard, to give reality to our dreams. Those dreams are for India, but they are also for the world, for all the nations and peoples are too closely knit together today for any one of them to imagine that it can live apart Peace has been said to be indivisible; so is freedom, so is prosperity now, and so also is disaster in this One World that can no longer be split into isolated fragments.
To the people of India, whose representatives we are, we make an appeal to join us with faith and confidence in this great adventure. This is no time for petty and destructive criticism, no time for ill-will or blaming others.
We have to build the noble mansion of free India where all her children may dwell. The appointed day has come-the day appointed by destiny-and India stands forth again, after long slumber and struggle, awake, vital, free and independent. The past clings on to us still in some measure and we have to do much before we redeem the pledges we have so often taken. Yet the turning-point is past, and history begins anew for us, the history which we shall live and act and others will write about.
It is a fateful moment for us in India, for all Asia and for the world. A new star rises, the star of freedom in the East, a new hope comes into being, a vision long cherished materializes. May the star never set and that hope never be betrayed! We rejoice in that freedom, even though clouds surround us, and many of our people are sorrowstricken and difficult problems encompass us. But freedom brings responsibilities and burdens and we have to face them in the spirit of a free and disciplined people.
On this day our first thoughts go to the architect of this freedom, the Father of our Nation [Gandhi], who, embodying the old spirit of India, held aloft the torch of freedom and lighted up the darkness that surrounded us. We have often been unworthy followers of his and have strayed from his message, but not only we but succeeding generations will remember this message and bear the imprint in their hearts of this great son of India, magnificent in his faith and strength and courage and humility. We shall never allow that torch of freedom to be blown out, however high the wind or stormy the tempest.
Our next thoughts must be of the unknown volunteers and soldiers of freedom who, without praise or reward, have served India even unto death. We think also of our brothers and sisters who have been cut off from us by political boundaries and who unhappily cannot share at present in the freedom that has come. They are of us and will remain of us whatever may happen, and we shall be sharers in their good [or] ill fortune alike.
The future beckons to us. Whither do we go and what shall be our endeavour? To bring freedom and opportunity to the common man, to the peasants and workers of India; to fight and end poverty and ignorance and disease; to build up a prosperous, democratic and progressive nation, and to create social, economic and political institutions which will ensure justice and fullness of life to every man and woman.
We have hard work ahead. There is no resting for any one of us till we redeem our pledge in full, till we make all the people of India what destiny intended them to be. We are citizens of a great country on the verge of bold advance, and we have to live up to that high standard. All of us, to whatever religion we may belong, are equally the children of India with equal rights, privileges and obligations. We cannot encourage communalism or narrow-mindedness, for no nation can be great whose people are narrow in thought or in action.
To the nations and peoples of the world we send greetings and pledge ourselves to cooperate with them in furthering peace, freedom and democracy. And to India, our much-loved motherland, the ancient, the eternal and the ever-new, we pay our reverent homage and we bind ourselves afresh to her service. Jai Hind.
Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru - Midnight, 14th August 1947
These points are taken from speech given by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru on midnight of Independence.
To bring freedom and opportunity to the common man,
To fight and end poverty and ignorance and disease;
To build up a prosperous, democratic and progressive nation,
To create social, economic and political institutions which will ensure justice and fullness of life to every man and woman.
Now after 60 years, we still ask this questions, Contexts are not very different. On the other hand India Inc is no doubt a front runner in developing countries, then where is the problem.
Problem is we Indians are satified with small victories and resigned after small defeats.
We fail to look at the bigger picture. We are more happier being ranked 5th in the cricket ratings rather than 50th in the soccer ratings. So what if barely 15 odd countries play cricket while 200 countries play soccer.
Each and every Indian between age 8 and 80 has an opinion about the failings of Sachin Tendulkar but have failed to produce a similar player in the past 10 years.
There is hope however. With more and more exposure to the world Indians are now being more aggressive and assertive.
Consider the just concluded India-England series. Usually our team loses the first match and then struggles to somehow draw the next one and tries to win the last one.
In this series we narrowly saved the 1st match, played to win the 2nd match and dominated the 3rd one. There was a big chance that we could have won the third one if we had been more positive and aggressive in approach. That is what the entire nation felt.
This is what gives us hope. That we are no longer content with the 'Chalta hai' attitude of the past. Our attitude now is more of 'Mangta hai' !
ASK THE PEOPLE OF KASHMIR WHATS THE MEANING OF FREEDOM THEY WILL TELL U.
What you think what will they tell me.
I will rather ask farmers from vidarbha .. they will tell me SUICIDE is freedom, freedom from all the problems and never ending loans.
Or i will ask to oldies in konkan, they will tell me working in mumbai is freedom from unattended dyeing villages in konkan.
Generation X mumbaikars will tell me shopping malls and buffet lunch is a freedom .. freedom to choose .. blah blah.
I don't know what you will call freedom.
Kashmir is definately a issue but not the only issue .. atleast its not the issue i can do something about.
There could be other issues which you, and each of us, could and want to do something about.
"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country" - John F Kennedy
Our ex-president A P J Abdul Kalam counts JFK as amongst one of his inspirations and so i mentioned this quote.
Abdul Kalam released his vision of India 2020.
Inspired by him a group of Indian professionals have got together and started an organisation 'DreamIndia 2020'.
Check it out at www.dreamindia.org
I think each of us might find something worthwhile to do, with some such organisation, even while we debate and discuss issues at marathikatta.
Hey Pavwala what does freedom mean to you Buddy ? Are you free ? If not then what sort of freedom are you looking out for ..if you are looking out for freedom?
"Man is free only at the moment of his birth and at the moment of his death. In the time between he is in chains " - Jean-Jacques Rousseau, French philosopher whose ideas led to the French Revolution.
Sorry Friends, I have drunk in advance today. Tomorrow is dry day ;-)
Freedom is
Having pride in sunita williams.
Getting Manu Sharma in jail.
Hanging the haiwans of noida.
Celebrating an India win...yes even kabaddi.
Feeling proud of Infosys.
Helping the neeedy in 26/7..
If "sunita williams" wouldve been in India no one wouldve heard of "sunita williams" so we have to thank USA for that.
Manu Sharma we have to thank the media cause the court set him free :)
kabaddi - some day we will will be 2nd best in this game
Helping the neeedy in 26/7 -- not possible
Freedom is not being scared to disagree. :-)
I agree with punchtantra
We all here on katta are born in Independent India. How would we possible know the pain of being slave of some other country.
We don't see any more boards out of movie theaters ,
Restaurants and other public places saying "Dogs And Indians Are Not Allowed".
Nobody would dare spit on our faces saying "You Bloody Indian" etc.
I agree for us its still long way to go.But for today lets celebrate Independence Day as its given us right to have our own MarathiKatta and give dozens of gali to BMC,trains,etc. :-) everyday.Otherwise Pavwala would have become Shahid-e-Pavwala By now ;-)just kidding
Hum Honge Kamiyab Ek Din HoHo Man Hai Vishwas Poora Hai Vishwas.Happy Independence Day To all kattaKarris.
Freedom means comfort. If you don't feel comfortable in your own country then u r not free.
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When the nation is unstable, people start talking about "patriotism." -- Lao Tzu
If we try to read Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru's speach above, one would realize that the dreams that our Leaders/ Freedom Fighters fought for is probably the kind of india that we are seeing today. But not in the way that they intended it to be.
We were just the driving force to the carriage of the British raj, who manuvered us. But our Leaders/ Freedom Fighters wanted us to be able to go in our own direction. They knew that we had lost a lot of time and resources, while the rest of the world was way ahead from us. The speech shows the immense enthusiasm that our leaders had, to catch up for the lost time.
There is a line in the speech which says "Freedom and power bring responsibility". I do not think most of us would know to use our freedom with responsibility. And everyone is to be blamed for it, not just the politicians .... after all we are the ones who choose them to be where they are today.
Our unity during the freedom struggle, was the key to our freedom. Our Leaders wanted all of India to be together .... always, because they knew, that the same unity would be the driving force behind our success. Maybe, we have achieved alot but we've lost the unity that we once had.
Our Leaders had dreamt of an India which would be free of poverty, ignorance, disease and inequality of opportunity. But, I think for whose ever personal interest, all these things were kept as is and played with. People knew that they could get what they wanted if they could take advantage of all these shortcomings that our country had.
Today, a lot of our villages are still living in the year 1947. No electricity, no roads, poverty, illiteracy and ofcourse inequality. And Yes, we are speaking about the country whose large chunk of income comes from providing technology to other countries. What a contrast?
Today, when I close my eyes, I feel like a free bird. A bird who is flying in a sky which is filled with other birds who are flying in no specific formation. Some just want to knock you down because your in their way. But atleast we have a sky of our own to fly .... thanks to your freedom fighters.
This is brilliant stuff by lostwanderer. I am sure he is really lost and wandering.
Most of the time Freedom for me is waking up on sunday afternoon to take a bath and eat. And then sleep again to wake up just before the evening to watch movie on zee mgm.
Its monday which makes me think about freedom.
Yea mate.Its like air and saturdays.. we dont notice it..unless it is not there.
Lostwanderer we haven't met since long. when can we meet?
Whenever you say, just gimme a call.
Big news .. sanvekar joined katta.
Till today he was just watching, today he manage to move his long fingures to actually regiser.
He need no introduction, he would have been more famous if he would have stayed in san francisco or holland.
Welcome!! long fingered sanvekar!!! LOL!!
Great news Kiran.... sanvekar, pls scan ur hand & post it on KATTA so that evryone will know how big palm u have. Welcome Onion Eater ;)